Where is this written?

I don't know why others were going missed. I got in easily. I never went missed at all. Since visibility wasn't an issue I assumed they were going missed because of the wet runway combined with low viz.

How many got in at FTY? Or were they going missed there too? I don't know.

And to answer your question about "creepy". I don't advertise my tail number. Ciholas went to great lengths to get my tail number, look up my FA track. Study FA and come to the wrong conclusion that I "went missed". Look up the radio correspondence et.c etc. all for what? You don't think it's little extreme? Who cares this much? What's the real motivation? Considering I just got a call from the FAA from an "anonymous hotline" that I was doing something wrong when I wasn't it's all adding up to be more than suspicious. Who takes the time to stalk a dude on the internet and do all of this? It's weird.

Where is this written?

I don't know why others were going missed. I got in easily. I never went missed at all. Since visibility wasn't an issue I assumed they were going missed because of the wet runway combined with low viz.

How many got in at FTY? Or were they going missed there too? I don't know.

And to answer your question about "creepy". I don't advertise my tail number. Ciholas went to great lengths to get my tail number, look up my FA track. Study FA and come to the wrong conclusion that I "went missed". Look up the radio correspondence et.c etc. all for what? You don't think it's little extreme? Who cares this much? What's the real motivation? Considering I just got a call from the FAA from an "anonymous hotline" that I was doing something wrong when I wasn't it's all adding up to be more than suspicious. Who takes the time to stalk a dude on the internet and do all of this? It's weird.

Already done in the "Will BT Last" thread.

We all talk a lot of trash here online. It's become a stupid thing to do. The problem is I'm totally addicted to talking about airplanes and flying. Like I said in the other thread, I'm fine with disagreements on BT. We're gonna fight but I always let it go. It's just a damn forum. But when you piss someone off and they take the time to try and ruin your life personally outside the forum I think it's nuts. Clearly they have other issues than what you wrote on BT.

Page 28, first post, shows two missed PC-12's. I didn't go check to make sure others got in but based it on that and the last 7 or so pages of this thread discussing why some planes get in and others don't (clouds, fog, company minimums, et al). Are you saying nobody else got in but PC-12's? I don't think so.

I don't know how many went missed at KFTL. I think you are digressing. You seemed to be making a point that PC-12's could get in when jets could not, which implies that the plane is the reason. I think the evidence presented supports that it is not the plane, which I believe I Mike's point and I agree with it. Do you?

I have no idea what length's he went to in order to get your tail number. It may have been no further effort than seeing a picture you have posted on BT. You are assuming he went to great lengths and are also making an implication that he reported you to the feds and is "stalking" you. I think that is a bit of a stretch and goes against the "BT way" others are alluding to.

This thread is EXACTLY what the FOE function is for, little dick syndrome.

It makes BT a lot less stressful, until somebody "quotes" a foe.

Some people just gotta be little dicks.

Actually, from now on most will be Dick to me.

He's out flyin for one of the "Majors", ain't got time for us lowly "private" pilots!

+1

Debate the facts!

I don't believe Mike is an airline pilot, do you have a problem with airline pilots? He definitely throws the BS flag when he see's fit. I don't think he's said anything false in regards to the PDK conversation has he? The difference getting into PDK wasn't the plane. It's a long runway. Jason made a general statement that the PC-12 can get into airports that a jet can't. Not necessarily true in regards to PDK, which is what we were talking about. Maybe true at some shorter fields, but not relevant to this discussion.

C'mon man, it's hard to decipher all of the quotes, take it eazy...

Do you think the pilots didn't know what the visibility was, or that the runway was wet before starting their approach?

Looking at the METAR, it was 200 ovc with fog and 1/2 - 1 sm visibility in the time period we are talking about. The minimums for the ILS 21L are 343' AGL, and 7/8 mile visibility. It isn't difficult to see why some may have missed the approach.

FWIW, at PDK, a wet runway for landing wouldn't stop many jets. Takeoff maybe, but landings not very often. To say that you landed because you were in a PC-12 and others missed because they were in a jet is a ridiculous and untrue statement.

Go to Flightaware, enter PDK, arrivals, page to Jan 3rd, look at PC12s landing near a Falcon, click on tail number to get flight track.

60 seconds, tops, for the whole process. You gave all the data needed.

Suggest you consider blocking your N number, though that is relatively ineffective, particularly if you have ADS-B out.


After being cleared to land, you said "we need a go around".

On the next pass, you said "we are having avionics issues" and went around again.

Prior to your third attempt, a Bonanza goes missed, a Falcon goes missed, then you land, then a PC12 following you goes missed. It seems your superior skill made the difference more than the plane involved.

There is no way to block LiveATC.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kpdk/ ... -2100Z.mp3
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kpdk/ ... -2130Z.mp3


A claim of a faulty ILS is worthy of investigation, particularly one that causes inability to proceed on an approach when outside the FAF.


If I was flying into PDK regularly (I don't), and I read that you think the ILS 21L is not reliable, I might call the FAA, too, and ask them to look into it. When it comes to safety, one shouldn't ignore something like that.

But in this case, I did no such thing. You have some other secret admirer.

Mike C.

Anybody else notice the correlation between the number of people getting "butt hurt" and the OAT? It seems to be a strictly inverse relationship. I've noticed this on several aviation websites that I frequent. Just saying...

HOLY COW!

What's goin on here tonite? Full moon or sumthin? Talk about a dog pile! (either kind, take yer pick)


First of all, Greg, I hope the slipper doesn't fit!

Steve S. my pal Steve M. was correct, I was pokin fun at my "FRIEND" Marcus (hence the funny little emoticons and such)

Josh, Steve B. et al, exactly When, How & Why does this thread need to be a "DEBATE"?

Why all the hating goin on here?

Jason is a great guy that I feel fortunate to be able to call my friend. I have never been witness to him "Lying" or giving anyone a ration of sh!t. The guy speaks his mind, and in my humble opinion, isn't worried about impressing anyone (except the Gulfstreamers in Aspen)


So, let's get on to something way more important... Like why the heck the Steelers didn't make the playoffs!?!!?!?!

Because they suck and lost to the even worse Ravens.

Tim

I did not realize that it was a "debate." I was simply stating my opinion of why some airplanes may have missed the approach, and the fact that jets don't have to miss the approach because of a wet runway or low visibility, contrary to what was said previously.