BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 13:54

I avoided the Cirrus mainly due to the depreciation

There are too many of them out there to be competitive on the market if trying to sell one, I can't buy something I can't sell- so I avoided.

I still bought a plastic plane though, but, I think some of you guys argue for the sake of arguing, I own a metal plane too, and I'm indifferent- they both have their pros/cons, which one is better? the one I happen to be flying at any given time-

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 13:56

Lancair doesn't depreciate?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:02

Username Protected wrote:

Lancair doesn't depreciate?

You can't loose $300k on something you paid $100k for :-)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:04

Username Protected wrote:

I avoided the Cirrus mainly due to the depreciation

There are too many of them out there to be competitive on the market if trying to sell one, I can't buy something I can't sell- so I avoided.

I still bought a plastic plane though, but, I think some of you guys argue for the sake of arguing, I own a metal plane too, and I'm indifferent- they both have their pros/cons, which one is better? the one I happen to be flying at any given time-

I could make money on mine. Right now. In a week.

Neal gets the credit.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:08

I agree, but I would have a hard time spending 3x it's current value upgrading and still have a 20-30 YO airframe.

I truly believe that GA is going to change radically in the next 2-5 years. The first Diesel engine to *really* work and be adopted by the manufacturers is going to kill the 100LL market. I still think big bore air cooled is the way to go in diesel.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:10

Username Protected wrote:

In the end, they will all fall to turbine or diesel power. Whether it's conversion or new planes.

100LL or some form of avgas will be around for a few decades, but the conversion to Jet-A will kick off for real within the next five to ten years.

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:10

Username Protected wrote:

Lancair doesn't depreciate?

You can't loose $300k on something you paid $100k for :-)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:26

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You'd be a fool to drop $800K on a piston plane.

Having come very close to doing exactly that, I have to agree with you. In the absence of a 100LL solution, making huge investments in anything powered by big bore CMI/Lycoming takes a certain willingness to disbelieve your own spreadsheets. I wonder what Cirrus sales people say to prospects when they bring up the fuel issue.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:33

Maybe it's time to create a new Beechtalk subforum, Cirrus, et al. :shrug:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:35

Username Protected wrote:

Maybe it's time to create a new Beechtalk subforum, Cirrus, et al. :shrug:

The vast majority of threads and posts on BeechTalk are not Beech-specific.

I like to read about all different types of planes and topics here.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:37

Username Protected wrote:

Maybe it's time to create a new Beechtalk subforum, Cirrus, et al. :shrug:

For some reason Cirrus gets a lot of people's knickers in a twist. And this idea comes up every few months.

It has been interesting that the threads are getting shorter.

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:42

Username Protected wrote:

It has been interesting that the threads are getting shorter.

I don't know about that - 15 pages on the "convert" thread & 8 (?) on the last pull thread.

There is a lot less opposition now.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 14:47

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Burns,

May I ask which Cirri you have in your logbook?

Best,

Absolutely ZERO Jesse and that's why I never mentioned any of the emotional issues such as "feel, flying quality, maintenance or fuel usage".

If I ever get the opportunity I'll certainly take it, but other than Nate I know of no one that owns one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jun 2014, 15:06

Username Protected wrote:

Quote:

You'd be a fool to drop $800K on a piston plane.

Having come very close to doing exactly that, I have to agree with you. In the absence of a 100LL solution, making huge investments in anything powered by big bore CMI/Lycoming takes a certain willingness to disbelieve your own spreadsheets. I wonder what Cirrus sales people say to prospects when they bring up the fuel issue.

Cirrus has enough modern airframes in the market that I would bet that they will a offer a factory retrofit for their older airframes.