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 Post subject: Re: Doug's New Jet A plane
PostPosted: 21 May 2013, 08:45 
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-47 is the "magic number".

But I agree, I'm not worried about the fuel freezing.... I worry about the water in the fuel freezing.


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For some reason our A330's don't have fuel heaters (read cheap). We do have fuel temp gauges and if below -40 or so have to either speed up or descend.
As far as water in Jet A, company disabled water evaporation system on delivery (see above for reason) after awhile found a 80lb chuck of ice in one main tank. Aircraft was grounded for a number of days while the ice melted.

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Sometimes the fuel-heater works, and sometimes it doesn't :eek:

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That's what you get for buying fuel in China and running your tanks to almost empty.. :doh:


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Dont spend much time there these days. Let me know when you are coming through.


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Doug, I gotta ask your thoughts on those Thielerts, a year or so ago the problems with engines were well known. Simply put the gearboxes had a history of failing early on in their life and there were endless problems with the rest of the engine. Some flight schools were left with twins on the ramp for months while waiting for parts from Germany at asinine costs. What the long term coverage of parts will be like I suspect is anyones guess but clearly a worry for an owner operator, and the costs to upgrade to the Austro engines is prohibitive. Not too long ago people were talking about these things being sold for scrap value and you were lucky if you could get out of one. What's changed?

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Doug, I gotta ask your thoughts on those Thielerts, a year or so ago the problems with engines were well known. Simply put the gearboxes had a history of failing early on in their life and there were endless problems with the rest of the engine. Some flight schools were left with twins on the ramp for months while waiting for parts from Germany at asinine costs. What the long term coverage of parts will be like I suspect is anyones guess but clearly a worry for an owner operator, and the costs to upgrade to the Austro engines is prohibitive. Not too long ago people were talking about these things being sold for scrap value and you were lucky if you could get out of one. What's changed?


There is a lot of confusion as the engine issues were somewhat complex. The first DA42's came with 1.7L Thielerts and they had a history of issues. The main real issue was that cooling nozzles would break off and this was an expensive fix. The gearbox and clutch issues were mainy "paper" issues as I never had or heard of any actual failures. There were several bad serial number batches of clutches that caused AD's, the clutch was not horribly expensive but the labour was steep. Both clutches and gear boxes were originally at 300 hrs with 600 hrs life's coming "soon". Only recently have the life extensions came through. There was also some pressure pump issues in regards to the injection system. There was also the AD form when the operator boosted both engines for start which was against the POH and the gear retraction caused a electrical bump and took all the engine ECU's offline and all went quiet.
There are also a lot of bitter early owners as they were to get maintainance and clutch and gear box replacement for a period of time and this was lost with the brankruptcy.
There was a period of about 6 - 8 months were parts were tough to come by. Engine Parts are now reasonably priced and availability is very predictable.
I have owned my 2008 DA42 since 2010 and other than unexpected initial annual on a plane sold as new by a dealer that I have vowed to never grace again, the plane has been been scheduled maintance only and never AOG'd. My expectation is that this 2006 with the new 2.0l Thielerts will be just a good.
Hope that answers your questions

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Sounds like you know what you're getting into... Did they explain why a plane with 750 hrs needed two new engines?

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Sounds like you know what you're getting into... Did they explain why a plane with 750 hrs needed two new engines?


Yep. This plane had the original 1.7 L engines, we upgraded to the 2.0 L versions which have great reliability and better performance. It's kind of like going to a 550 in a Bo performance wise as specs are "booked" at the same numbers but the bigger cubed engine performs better. These are also new engine and accessories so latest and greatest versions plus come with 2 yrs of warranty.

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Cool, how much is a new 2.0?

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Cool, how much is a new 2.0?


The 2.0 L are about $35,000 each, if you need to update the 1.7 L to 2.0L the upgrade package (which includes a fair amount of goodies) is a total of $140,000.

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Plane is in London, ON and I'm flying out tomorrow morning to meet her in person. Assuming all is well then I will complete the import at London and fly home later in the week. I will post some pictures hopefully Monday.
If anyone is going to be in London this week let me know.

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Doug,
I will be in Toronto CYTZ on wednesday, if your still around I can go meet you in CYXU.

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I will be in Toronto CYTZ on wednesday, if your still around I can go meet you in CYXU.


That would be great! I'll keep you posted.

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Looks like an happy owner. I see you will be burning the right fuel!


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Thanks for the lunch yesterday Doug.


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