BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:40

Username Protected wrote:

I believe what I'm writing. What I want to know is why does what I'm writing get SOME people so worked up? I'm speaking the truth. Do you not see what I see?

I see it.
I believe it.

That does NOT make me a JC disciple... :eek:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:43

Username Protected wrote:

That does NOT make me a JC disciple... :eek:

I'm not making the rules. I'm not in the business. It's right there in front of me. Clear as day. Black and white.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:48

Username Protected wrote:

I'm not making the rules. I'm not in the business. It's right there in front of me. Clear as day. Black and white.

Exactly;

It's not good . . . it's not bad . . . it is what it is.

Face it, Cirrus is blowing Beech away in sales right now.

Beechcraft must evolve to meet the demands of the market or they will die.

It's simple, Evolve or Die.

Change is not optional.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:49

Username Protected wrote:

Well put. I think J.C. Makes these posts then sits back and reads while making his tea as everybody gets worked up.

I haven't quite figured him out yet, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually live what he posts all the time. I think he gets a kick out of getting everyone worked up.

Kinda funny at times I have to admit.............

I'm standing right here. Why you writing like I can't read or something?

I believe what I'm writing. What I want to know is why does what I'm writing get SOME people so worked up? I'm speaking the truth. Do you not see what I see?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:50

btw why do you say fixed gear is the only drawback? it kinda isn't and some would consider it an advantage.. esp since it doesn't affect performance significantly

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:54

Username Protected wrote:

btw why do you say fixed gear is the only drawback? it kinda isn't and some would consider it an advantage.. esp since it doesn't affect performance significantly

I don't think it's a draw back in reality. I just don't like it. Fixed gear=Clown plane. Let's not talk about it.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:55

The Cirrus vision is exactly as Jason describes, has been from the start. At the time I thought it was just another hopeless attempt to make non-aviators into airplane drivers, but avionics have changed everything. The 'aviator' market is small, the 'pissed off at the TSA' market is potentially enormous.

Of course, the FAA will rig the rules to stop any real mass market alternative to the airlines, because that's what they do.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:56

Crandall...I love your posts. You represent a point of view that ought to become more predominant in our flying.

Take me...I am still working around the decision to buy my business airplane. I get all the stick and rudder fun I need with my Cub. And yes, that kicks me up to another level, but...

When I fly for business, I just want to go just like I did in my F33. Take off, kick on the AP and shut it off when I am getting close to the runway. I twist the knobs and get there. I really don't care what hand flying my business airplane is like. Hell, if I could type in Miami and get there, I would.

Compared to the Cub...compared to most of the gliders I have flown...compared to the RV8 I used to fly...the Bo is a truck. No offense, guys, but that's a fact. Sure, it is a great handling truck...but...

And for business flying, I don't much care about the "quality" of the flying experience...I just care about being fresh when I get there.

Jason? Take your point and add a big +1 to it from me.

Jim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:56

Username Protected wrote:

Different target market.. :deadhorse:

+1.

Timothy, do you really not see the difference?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 10:59

Username Protected wrote:

The 'aviator' market is small, the 'pissed off at the TSA' market is potentially enormous.

That is the number one, most important concept that everyone in aviation and here at BT can come to terms with right now. That is the future of airplanes.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 11:00

Username Protected wrote:

In the XC market

The XC market is the ONLY market. Everything else is a "jet ski".

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 May 2013, 11:44

Username Protected wrote:

I will wait until I see a 10 year old plastic Cirrus compared to a ten year old Baron or Bonanza. So, far the older Cirrus I have seen with a some hours on them look like a POS. Maybe they should just call them the throw away plane. :scratch:

You should have looked at my 10 year old Cirrus last week Russ! it still looks new in every aspect. Like every airplane, if you baby it and hangar it the results will show.

Cirrus is so far out in front.......