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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 31 Mar 2024, 18:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: Curious, any idea where this went or what happened to their plane? I always loved the look, saw the initial stuff, and then nothing further until this post much later.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 01 Apr 2024, 18:41 |
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Joined: 11/15/17 Posts: 1172 Post Likes: +607 Company: Cessna (retired)
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That is the now Walter powered “341” pictured above. Same airframe after being rescued from a scrap yard. I compared some close up pics of it and the external doublers near the firewall match perfectly.
I knew it was previously operated without tip tanks. I saw it with the original wing tips when I sold them the tip tanks that are on it now.
I wonder if it had a fuselage tank for the test flights.[/quote]
It had tip tanks for all but the very last flight, whose purpose was to see how much faster it would be. Was a very short flight because all it had was the original 340 aux tanks.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 01 Apr 2024, 23:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: Saw this as I was looking at LinkedIn earlier from a flight test facility in Canada. I'm in a mixed bag of "well that's cool" and "but why?" but wanted to share in case someone had more insight into the project. A quick read through some comments and it looks like this has been an ongoing project for somebody over the past several years. If I understand this correctly, they've converted a 421 airframe into a SETP. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lgraviat ... 48576-ciVGhttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/lgraviat ... 71488-tcAXWHY? Talk about pissing money away. What altitude is a 421 certified to? What is the cabin psi differential? Doesn’t seem to me that it could go above 25K and would not be terribly fuel efficient at that altitude.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 09:34 |
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This is gotta be one of the coolest thread to be running on Beechtalk in a while. The damn the torpedoes mentality of these guys dreaming up, designing, and creating these airplanes is super cool. I love it.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 09:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: A runout pressurized twin carcass seems a perfect candidate for a SETP conversion.
Except for AG, an unpressurized turbine is kinda silly. Wrong! I guess then a Caravan, Twin Otter, Allison powered Bonanza, turbine Beaver and turbine helicopters are kinda silly too. Are Turbo-normalized Bonanzas kinda silly too? They too do well in the high teens without the high TBO and virtually maintenance free reliability factor. One also must consider the unavailability in many parts of the world and future price increases coming on the other fuel. Pressurization adds a lot of cost, weight and complexity while decreasing the utility on many aircraft. Not all turbine engines are designed with flat rated engines to operate at higher altitudes. Some are more like normally aspirated engines in that regard.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 10:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: I guess then an Allison powered Bonanza is kinda silly too. Yep. Nuthin' dumber than a turbine Bo.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 10:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: I guess then an Allison powered Bonanza is kinda silly too. Yep. Nuthin' dumber than a turbine Bo.
Obviously you have never flown one. A piston Bonanza is to a turbine Bonanza what a Bell 47 is to a Jet Ranger.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 03 Apr 2024, 11:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Bill, What was the power plant? I think you mentioned it in a previous thread but I can’t remember. I was previously told that it was a PT6 but that is obviously not the case. It was two small block Allison turboshafts with a custom made gearbox and custom made props.
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Post subject: Re: C421 converted to single PT6 Posted: 04 Apr 2024, 22:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: I guess then an Allison powered Bonanza is kinda silly too. Yep. Nuthin' dumber than a turbine Bo.
Mine was awesome..the Allison motor doesn’t melt fuel down low like the Pratt. I have owned a TN, a TC, and a Baron…the turbine bonanza beat all of them by a long shot.
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