To each his own my friend.

I see quite a few logical fallacies in that reply.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

fallacy fallacy
ad hominem (towards his bride)
composition/division
no true scotsman (only the most capable choice is the right one)
black or white

One might argue that his wife's position is a "Middle Ground" fallacy, but I would not call choosing Cirrus G5 vs Meridian an example of extremes.

(as a side comment, I am guessing that you will like the premise of that website!)

Smart man. Just before I got married my older and much wiser cousin told me "you can be right or you can be happy". Having said that, in this particular case I would have gone with right in the hopes that she eventually realized my decision was correct. I know my wife absolutely loves pressurization and no headsets in the 425. We take trips now that she never would have considered in the unpressurized piston commander and that was a fast, comfortable ride by piston standards. But your wife's feelings speak volumes about the idea of the chute. The idea of putting a chute in a "little plane" was a brilliant idea terms of selling airplanes and Cirrus saw it when no one else did. Cessna still doesn't see it and it shows in their lack of sales for piston singles.

In any marriage, one person is always right; the other person is the husband.

If being wrong ended up with me in G5 Cirrus, I could live with that.

Your dislike (hatred?) of the Cirrus is palpable. I’ve seen at least 5 threads where you’ll jump at any opportunity to bash the SR series.

Now you’re even implying a member’s wife is illogical, and that the member is being patriarchal.


Don-

Sweet rig!!!! I love my G1 (despite what Mike Ciholas thinks) and can only imagine how nice your G5 is. I want to take a ride in a newer plane, but again, I really don’t (if you know what I mean!)

And whatever you do, dont ever allow your wife to take a ride in a new Cirrus.

I don't hate Cirrus at all. You've just labeled me as a hater because my views don't align with yours.


I'm saying the opposite, that she is likely to be logical and end up preferring a pressurized turbine over an unpressurized piston when given a chance to experience them in operation.

Mike C.

I didn't call you a "hater" so I'm not sure how you felt labeled?

Let's assume I misunderstood your comments regarding Don's wife's logic. That would then put me in company with at least two other people in this thread (Don C. & Jim H.). I knew the point you were making, you just worded your point to be made at his wife's expense (in the original post).

I agree with your comment on experiencing turbines & pressurization.

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I’ve had my ‘07 SR22T G2 for almost 3 months and 50 hrs. My wife has always been a nervous and very reluctant flyer in our A36 (would never fly in our G35) and always commented on the various Cirri on the ramp when we’d go to Santa Barbara for lunch or the weekend. The last time we were there she said “why don’t we get one of those; I’d feel a lot more comfortable”. Old plane was up for sale the next day and the Cirrus was in the hangar a couple of months later. She wanted to go to our AZ house this weekend. Told her the plane is in annual but we can drive. Nope. No way. Works for me. I’m just afraid that if either of us see a G5 or G6 we won’t be able to resist.

Every guy reading this forum that has/had a significant other that was nervous about flying, or flat out said no completely understands Don's reasoning. The others, well, are well represented here.

Congratulations Don! What a sweet airplane and a great opportunity to spend the time with you wife.

Jason

The whole discussion about the wife, and her thought processes, is silly. Human beings process information and make decisions in ways that are unique to them and those who are interested in long term, mutually satisfying, relationships find ways to accomodate differences rather than impose.

The Cirrus parachute system, aside from any real safety benefits, is an amazing development in GA inasmuch as it has really brought a lot of fears to the surfaces from those who pilots would like to fly but who don't really want to. It has also provided a pathway to GA flying, in mental and emotional comfort, for many.

My own wife never flew with me until I bought a Cirrus. Then she was happy to. Her experiences with the Cirrus got her very interested in flying in a pressurized turbo prop or jet because she didn't like the size of a small GA plane, hated the nose hose and once she had decided she wanted to go somewhere was frustrated by weather cancellations. Those things caused her to encourage me to move up although there were lots of discussions about why other aircraft don't have parachutes.

My point is simply that people make decisions their own way and in their own time. The Cirrus is a great tool for helping those who are afraid, or don't like to fly, get started and potentially move down the path all of us want them to.

Congratulations on your decision Don. You're a smart guy!

Well said Tony. I'm just going to have you write my posts for me from now on. You have a unique way of stating the same thoughts I have but in a much more eloquent manner.

I think my wife will be able to be talked into a t-prop or jet someday just as yours was but all in good time...

Im in a lease pool that has Cirrus G3-G5 (maybe a 6 now) and a meridian. Im checked out on the Cirri but insurance requires a mentor on the Meridian. I am regularly amazed by three things 1) the realtive real world utility of the airplanes are very close (weight, speed, range) 2) . The real world trip cost delta between the G5 and an older (avidyne) meridian are often very small. 3) I have regular passengers that prefer the cirrus- it seems to be about the ergonomics, windows, and ingress/egress, doesn't seem like the parachute plays into it.

I have not taken my wife for a ride in the Cirrus because while i generally like the Cirrus i do not want to be committed to flying one for the rest of my life

Cirrus I-phoned the 4 place single engine airplane., its not about the pieces its about the integration of the pieces and the resulting usability. I came to Iphones and Cirri (From Blackberry and a Mooney respectively) kicking and screaming, but the usability grows on on the more you use them.