And I would be remiss if I didn't look into it some more. I only recently learned (from a broker) that the Phenom ranks very high in customer satisfaction and reliability. It appears to come at a 500k cost over the Mustang. We'll have to run that analysis this week. I initially discounted the brand as I've seen lots of broken down Legacies and 300's on the ramp/hangar in the past. Phenom must've upped their customer support. Wish I could say the same for Bombardier which has been atrocious, slow, overpriced and did I mention slow...

Proparts is a not to exceed under very limited conditions if you go to the end of your contract and don't renew. Few do that.

If you sell the plane before the end of your contract and have a negative balance then you owe Cessna money.

If you enroll in Proparts study the contract carefully under different scenarios if you have a positive or negative balance.

Also note that you will be paying retail parts prices. Parts are I often available at discounts from other vendors.

And I would be remiss if I didn't look into it some more. I only recently learned (from a broker) that the Phenom ranks very high in customer satisfaction and reliability. It appears to come at a 500k cost over the Mustang. We'll have to run that analysis this week. I initially discounted the brand as I've seen lots of broken down Legacies and 300's on the ramp/hangar in the past. Phenom must've upped their customer support. Wish I could say the same for Bombardier which has been atrocious, slow, overpriced and did I mention slow...

Will a Mustang go 700NM non stop with a good headwind? That's the issue with the small jets and why they lose value from new so quickly. On short hops speed doesn't make much difference.

There was an event at an airport 250NM away last weekend. An Astra and I were holding short at the same time with the same destination. We landed at the same time.

Unless the jet you're buying has the same endurance as the KA200 I don't think you'll see any benefit. "Jet" and "short hops" doesn't go together.

That said, the Mustang is an amazing value. But if I had a KA200 I wouldn't "add a Mustang for short hops". It doesn't make sense.

I'd sell the KA200 and buy a CJ3 and just use it for everything.

Whole different DOC. And no doubt the mustang would do 700 with one passenger into a headwind. But I get what you're saying. The mustang looks like it would be a great entry plane. What gets me is I don't think it would do Miami to New York. Chances are, living on the east coast, this would be a bread and butter flight for charters and jets.

What's the DOC for having 2 airplanes instead of 1?

A Phenom 100 won't do NY to Miami.

What's the DOC for having 2 airplanes instead of 1?

A Phenom 100 won't do NY to Miami.

Your analysis would be interesting to see.

That totally negates taking the jet over the KA200.

Short hops is in the eye of the beholder. For me short hop means 250 NM and because I fly a Cirrus 500 miles is medium. 700 is a long day.

It's interesting to look at cycles compared to hours on the Mustang. They appear to average about 1 cycle every 1.1-1.5 hours. If you fly a Mustang, even occasionally, 500-1000 miles you'll have cycle times averaging more than that. So, short hops and jets may not go together but that's what the Mustang seems to be used for.

Why?

It would be interesting for someone who has operated both a KA 200 and Mustang, or a KA 90 and Mustang to compare their DOC's on similar short trips.

The speed difference between a KA200 v. Mustang isn't as great as an SR22 v. Mustang. That said, a 250NM flight there still ins't a huge difference between taking the Mustang vs. the SR22.

People don't buy the Mustang "for short hops". They buy the Mustang because it's a lot of bang of the buck at $1.5MM. Then they just use it for what they use it for.

If you already have a KA200 then you're not buying a Mustang because "that's just the plane that's in your price range".

I share a hangar with a guy that has a Lear 35 and a brand new SR22 (non pilot). He should sell both and go buy a CJ of some kind and run it for everything.

For MeThat totally negates taking the jet over the KA200.

You're going ZERO mph sitting at the FBO filling up with gas. The smallest jet I'd buy is a CJ2+. It's the first moving up that gives you range and speed.

All jets are NOT apples. Comparing jets is apples and oranges.

You're going ZERO mph sitting at the FBO filling up with gas. The smallest jet I'd buy is a CJ2+. It's the first moving up that gives you range and speed.

All jets are NOT apples. Comparing jets is apples and oranges.

It's not "different strokes for different folks". The market mimics what I'm saying.

Selling the KA200 and not buying the Mustang gives you plenty of money for a nice Citation or CJ.