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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution?  Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 10:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: I've asked for the W&B info for the piston. No joy as yet.
An option regarding the parachute is to built a place for it but not install it. The cost in $ and pounds is reasonable. There's then always the option of retrofitting.
Ashley If it's anything like the CAPS installation it's probably more complex than you might think with reefing lines embedded in the fuselage. That said, it's an interesting option.
if they do the lines/supports in the fuselage and do not install the parachute pack/rocket, then it makes sense to say it's "ready for BRS" but no BRS installed
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 20:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Having just had my exam for my medical certificate, I'm wondering about Basic Med. One of the limitations for the basic Medical is speed: the airplane must fly at less than 250 kts. The piston Evolution cruise is listed 230 kts; the turbine is 261kts. On the face if it, the piston Evolution could be flown with just the Basic Med, while the Turbine would require regular visits to an AME.
I wonder if simpler medical certification might encourage some to choose pistons. They would have to stay below 18'K to be within the Basic Med rules. Would someone with a Basic Med be allowed to fly an airplane capable of faster speeds so long as they didn't exceed them?
Ashley The Evo is not a problem. It is 250 indicated.
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 22:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Would someone with a Basic Med be allowed to fly an airplane capable of faster speeds so long as they didn't exceed them? Yep. That's what the articles say.
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 23:51 |
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the IV is an easy to fly amazing airplane. Don't believe the deathtrap drama. the EVO is faster and more comfortable but NOT a better a airplane.It costs 3X the price for the same or less speed (depending on engine choice)
If you can fly, the IV is a better airplane.
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 23:51 |
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the IV is an easy to fly amazing airplane. Don't believe the deathtrap drama. the EVO is faster and more comfortable but NOT a better a airplane.It costs 3X the price for the same or less speed.
If you can fly, the IV is a better airplane.
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 01:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: the EVO is faster ... It costs 3X the price for the same or less speed. How can the Evo be "faster" than the IV with "the same or less speed"?
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 06:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: AH Yes! It is 250 kts INDICATED. Thanks.
I believe you'd still be limited to FL 180.
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 10:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: the EVO is faster ... It costs 3X the price for the same or less speed. How can the Evo be "faster" than the IV with "the same or less speed"?
Touche': It's confusing, the piston IV is faster than the piston EVO but the turbine IV is about the same as the EVO. Apples to apples I guess one should compare pistons to pistons and turbines to turbines....
EVO is amazing but not sure it's worth 3-5 times the money of a IV...
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 12:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: the IV is an easy to fly amazing airplane. Don't believe the deathtrap drama. the EVO is faster and more comfortable but NOT a better a airplane.It costs 3X the price for the same or less speed.
If you can fly, the IV is a better airplane. said no one- ever...the EVO is hands down a better airplane in ALL aspects
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 13:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: the IV is an easy to fly amazing airplane. Don't believe the deathtrap drama. the EVO is faster and more comfortable but NOT a better a airplane.It costs 3X the price for the same or less speed.
If you can fly, the IV is a better airplane. said no one- ever...the EVO is hands down a better airplane in ALL aspects
The G650 and B777 are better airplanes too but that's not really apples to apples. Add the cost of money to the equation and I don't think the EVO makes a lot of sense for IV owner.
EVO: 4 seats, 1.5 million or 1 million
IV: 4 Seats, $200K-$400K,
Both have similar speeds. Obviously it's bigger, safer and more comfortable but I don't see how it's worth so much more to carry 4 people about the same speed.
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 13:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Both have similar speeds. Obviously it's bigger, safer and more comfortable but I don't see how it's worth so much more to carry 4 people about the same speed. Michael, what's the pressure differential on the IV? You can maintain a 8000 ft cabin at what altitude?
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Post subject: Re: Piston-Powered Lancair Evolution? Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 13:49 |
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5.5 Differential, it's plenty for the altitudes the IV flies at. I think that works out to sea level up to around 12Kish. Sweet spot for this plane is 17.5 at 260kts buring 17.5 GPH. It will go 1000 nmiles, hold 800lbs of stuff. It's good looking and fun/easy to fly. It's almost the perfect airplane..for ME. Far and away the best airplane I've owned or flown.
The EVO obviously tops those stats but at a much higher price tag. It's also incredibly ugly.
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