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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:14 |
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Why aren't there any twins with chutes?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:16 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 20327 Post Likes: +25469 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: Mike, the criteria is that I passed out, simple. Let's run a thought experiment. You are flying along in cruise on autopilot and you fall asleep. You expect your wife to pull the chute right then and there. If not, then what do you expect her to do exactly? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mike, the criteria is that I passed out, simple. Let's run a thought experiment. You are flying along in cruise on autopilot and you fall asleep. You expect your wife to pull the chute right then and there. If not, then what do you expect her to do exactly? Mike C.
Yes, my wife did a pinch hitter class in the Cirrus. The instructor covered both pulling the chute or flying the plane back to an airport. She liked the chute a lot more, said it was easier to remember, and the required steps were included on the briefing card on the plane.
Tim
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mike, the criteria is that I passed out, simple. Let's run a thought experiment. You are flying along in cruise on autopilot and you fall asleep. You expect your wife to pull the chute right then and there. If not, then what do you expect her to do exactly? Mike C.
I play this trick on her all the time! She clicks the autopilot off and puts the plane into an unusual attitude and I wake up!
Seriously, do you think my wife can't figure out if I'm sleeping or passed out?
This scenario isn't realistic. If she pulls the chute while I'm sleeping, I guess our insurance rates go up?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: You are flying along in cruise on autopilot and you fall asleep.
You expect your wife to pull the chute right then and there.
... Reductio ad absurdum Glenn
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seriously, do you think my wife can't figure out if I'm sleeping or passed out? How long does she try to wake you? What if you weren't on autopilot when this happens? It only seems simple when you examine it superficially and not in the moment. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 02:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seriously, do you think my wife can't figure out if I'm sleeping or passed out? How long does she try to wake you? What if you weren't on autopilot when this happens? It only seems simple when you examine it superficially and not in the moment. Mike C.
The worst that can happen is she pulls the chute and I wake up and wonder what the hell just happened.
The pilot that doesn't pull and crashes is a completely different set of circumstances if that's what you are getting at.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 12:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seriously, do you think my wife can't figure out if I'm sleeping or passed out? How long does she try to wake you? What if you weren't on autopilot when this happens? It only seems simple when you examine it superficially and not in the moment. Mike C.
Till she wants to pull the chute. It is rather simple, the purpose is to get down safe. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE PLANE. In addition, if I fall asleep while flying I am so fatigued that my judgement is likely compromised. So my passenger pulling the chute and landing safely is the right call.
Tim
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Jet w/ V-tail Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 12:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: So... I am hoping that this new little Cirrus Jet will become very very popular bringing V-tails back into the mainstream making all of our V-tail Bonanza's more desirable and valuable than they all ready are!! http://cirrusaircraft.com/static/wallpa ... 0x1024.jpgScott, Some folks here do have an opinion about the SF50. For example, you might want to check out the thousand begillion posts in this thread: viewtopic.php?t=100102
Thanks Arlen.... I clicked over there and checked it out.
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