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 Post subject: Re: Cessna Conquests
PostPosted: 29 Mar 2015, 22:21 
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The reason they command a higher price? Vanity.

I've said it before: low wing. As simple as that. Lower winged airplanes bring out desires that high wings can't match. You go through every comparable aircraft type and you will see that the low wing competitor will always demand a premium.

Malibu gets more than a P210
King Airs and Conquests more than MU-2's and Commanders.
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Appearances matter. :box:

Adam, I think the value of the Shrike Commander might put a hole in that theory!

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Adam, I think the value of the Shrike Commander might put a hole in that theory!


That's because there is no low wing alternative! :thumbup: ;)

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Adam, I think the value of the Shrike Commander might put a hole in that theory!


That's because there is no low wing alternative! :thumbup: ;)

You got a point there! :roll:
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I tore out all avionics and put in all glass cockpit, new radar, stormscope, traffic, ADS-B, XM, new autopilot, so with such a large expense, it was almost an advantage to have a more expensive airframe - it makes the delta between w/o and with upgraded avionics smaller and makes the plane possibly easier to sell later as the % increase in price is smaller.


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Where do Conquest owners and pilots congregate on the web? I can't find an active owners group. Do they have a separate forum on the Cessna owners site?


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Most talk is about the 441. Anyone here own or fly a 425? What are they like?


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For Max, or other 441 owners...

Have you noticed any issues with parts or support availability from Cessna for the airframes? We (aka a customer) may be looking to upgrade from a 421 later this year and are looking at the options. The MU-2, Merlin and 441 are on our short list..

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Where do Conquest owners and pilots congregate on the web? I can't find an active owners group. Do they have a separate forum on the Cessna owners site?


There are not enough of them that are active owner/operators. Thats what happens when you leave the piston world (excepting jetprops/meridians).

The Conquest II is a beast. The hard part is finding one with reasonable airframe hours for a realistic price tag. You need a monster hangar also.

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Where do Conquest owners and pilots congregate on the web? I can't find an active owners group. Do they have a separate forum on the Cessna owners site?


There are not enough of them that are active owner/operators. Thats what happens when you leave the piston world (excepting jetprops/meridians).

The Conquest II is a beast. The hard part is finding one with reasonable airframe hours for a realistic price tag. You need a monster hangar also.


I've just bought the hangar. I will need to widen the door if I go this route but a hangar neighbor has done theirs and I have the engineering and contractor information. If I go with something smaller like a TBM I'm good to go.

Max has been tremendously helpful with information, as has my neighbor, but I'd like to read even more. Pity there isn't as much information easily available as there is for some other airframes.

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Yes, I'd like to see if anyone has experience with the 425...?

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Yes, I'd like to see if anyone has experience with the 425...?


I owned a 425 for 5 years and 700 hours. Great plane. Did 250 kts at FL250 on 60 GPH.

What do you want to know?

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Yes, I'd like to see if anyone has experience with the 425...?


I owned a 425 for 5 years and 700 hours. Great plane. Did 250 kts at FL250 on 60 GPH.

What do you want to know?


What was it like to own, maintain, handling, useful load and anything that you think was unique about it.

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425s are great easy to fly and super comfortable planes. If your really interested in a 425, check out The Bacon Aviation low utilization maintenance program. www.baconaviation.com

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Where do Conquest owners and pilots congregate on the web? I can't find an active owners group. Do they have a separate forum on the Cessna owners site?


As far as I know there is no place where the 300 or so 441 owners can congregate. I suggested to the head of the Twin Cessna organization that they should include the Conquest series, but so far no go. So for now, Beechtalk :)


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Yes, I'd like to see if anyone has experience with the 425...?


I owned a 425 for 5 years and 700 hours. Great plane. Did 250 kts at FL250 on 60 GPH.

What do you want to know?


What is the typical UL, fuel capacity and range of the 425? 250kts on 60gph in a twin t-prop sounds awfully attractive to me.
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