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jetprop? i am 6 ' 6" tall


I'm 6'3 and fit. Bought mine from a guy who is 6'5. There are seat mods. Kevin Mead or Chad Menne are the guys to talk to.


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That's a very scary look you have there. It's the, "I'm jumping off the ledge look." Oh my. :ohno:

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Since it appears you have done the research, what MX concerns are you referring to with the TBM's? I have thought seriously about this for my next plane and I thought they were pretty much just annual inspections?


JC is right about the Evolution....they will have to bury you in it.



yes they will. but you'll be doing 320kts... and smiling too. :cheers:

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Since it appears you have done the research, what MX concerns are you referring to with the TBM's? I have thought seriously about this for my next plane and I thought they were pretty much just annual inspections?


JC is right about the Evolution....they will have to bury you in it.



yes they will. but you'll be doing 320kts... and smiling too. :cheers:

Are you suggesting "self burial" (doing 320 kts into the ground)? :peace:
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Hah!!!
No way. But I was worried it may come off like that.

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Man, the gear doors look pretty vulnerable!


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Michael, What does your TBM cost to own/run? Annual maintenance & insurance?


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Dave,

We have only had the TBM since July........so no annual yet. No surprises maintenance wise yet. So far cost have been fuel, insurance, maintenance, hangar etc.
Fuel burns about 50 gal hour. I could get you more specific info if you need it.
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50 GPH is not too shabby for a turbine airplane. I love the TBM.

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50 GPH is not too shabby for a turbine airplane. I love the TBM.

Very nice airplane.

The main thing to be aware of is that the engine overhaul is major $$$$. Prat wants money to do anything with a PT6A-6x series big block.

My cost per hour for HSI and OH on my TWO engines is less than for the ONE on the TBM.

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Yea....... I'm not looking forward to overhaul. I've heard estimates from 250k to 350k?!?
That would hurt. Love the plane. Just flew nonstop from Bozeman (KBZN) to Kankakee (KIKK) non stop in 3:18. That's about 1063 miles. Used about 180 gals of fuel. Landed with 100 gals left. Had 4 big guys, full fuel and bags. Low ceilings, ice, 25 knot crosswinds.......plane performed flawlessly.


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I'm not looking forward to overhaul. I've heard estimates from 250k to 350k?!?

I believe the base price is around $300K for R and R and overhaul with nothing wrong.

I've seen costs run as high as $500K in real life.

One example, a Cheyenne III with two PT6A-61 engines (very similar to -66D on TBM, same size, power, RPM, etc) ran $525K *EACH* for overhaul for 3,500 TBO. Both were second run engines (one prior overhaul) so that affects the numbers to some extent. The quoted base price was $265K (not including R and R), which might as well be fiction.

I personally would budget $400K for a PT6A-66D overhaul. Works out to $115/hour. If you come in under $350K, that is probably the best one can do.

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if you are part 91, would you have to overhaul the engine?

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