BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 16:42

Username Protected wrote:

Ok I'll bite.

The title said Not another parachute thread. Yet turned into some
kind of philosophical brain dump about the subject again.

I suppose I wish BT was what it was when I joined, Jason with the long hair avatar, discussions about beech products. Instead it's become something like Facebook. I do not have FB cause I got tired of seeing people's babies their cars, and selfies at a restaurant.

I do appreciate the brand x, I should learn how to use it. I always click recent and page through the first several pages and the ignore function does not work like that.

If I was buying a plane today I'd get a cirrus and hang out at their place. I just wish BT was like it used to be. As a business development consultant I watched many many things over the years out grow themselves and forget what they were good at. sometmes success is a problem. I saw a post a while back about 30k members, cool except 20k of them have never made a post. Hmmmm. L8r.

The only way to have the old BT is to get together in person. We just did it. Had 70 people.

None of the trolls, or BSrs, show up in person. We had 100% quality folks and all had a great time.

Sorry you missed it.

Best,

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 16:46

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The only way to have the old BT is to get together in person. We just did it. Had 70 people.

None of the trolls, or BSrs, show up in person. We had 100% quality folks and all had a great time.

Sorry you missed it.

Best,

I've mentioned that to a few in PM's. You never find the rudeness between those that have gotten together. And it brings some realness to the conversations.

Kinda like going to The Masters. Once you've been there, it's better even over media (TV).

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 16:50

Username Protected wrote:

The only way to have the old BT is to get together in person. We just did it. Had 70 people.

None of the trolls, or BSrs, show up in person. We had 100% quality folks and all had a great time.

Sorry you missed it.

Best,

And I was bummed I couldn't make it... :-( But kids activities make that hard unfortunately.

I don't own a Beech right now (although technically the same family now), and BT is still my favorite site. I am active on CJP, MMOPA, COPA, TCF and most of my "friends" are on BT. I was just talking to one on my phone on my way back into the office (and we were laughing about the recent long thread). He has an invite to stay at my mountain condo - and we met on BT.

It should be really called Airplane Talk - because if I have an issue - I can usually find an answer here - regardless of model.

-jason

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 16:57

Username Protected wrote:

And I was bummed I couldn't make it... :-( But kids activities make that hard unfortunately.

I don't own a Beech right now....

Jason - I can ASSURE you, if they still let me come in the SR, they will CERTAINLY let you come in the Mustang!

In fact, they gather around these unusual non-Beech planes with a morbid curiosity, sitting in them; asking questions; taking pictures while pretending they're not.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 17:00

Who or what do you consider a "troll" or "BSr"? I haven't been here long at all but it seems like a lot of joking around and bull sh-tting goes on with the more established members. I'm fine with that by the way. It's odd though if you consider new people trolls or BSrs if they don't suck up and agree with the long-time BTrs.

David

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 17:22

Username Protected wrote:

Who or what do you consider a "troll" or "BSr"? I haven't been here long at all but it seems like a lot of joking around and bull sh-tting goes on with the more established members. I'm fine with that by the way. It's odd though if you consider new people trolls or BSrs if they don't suck up and agree with the long-time BTrs.

David

David,

I assume you are addressing me.

I can think of about 5-10 "trolls" / "BSrs" that have been here since I joined. They are no longer here as far as I am aware. They can definitely stir up some trouble while they do their thing.

When folks reference the old BT, its hard to explain. Frankly, I came in on the tail-end of that. Everyone was 100% a gentleman, respectful, and courteous. We had very experienced guys willing to share often. The knowledge to BS ratio was very high. There was almost NO desire to puff one's chest. The identities of folks were highly transparent and impressive. Personal information was shared. Personal advice was given.

I clearly remember receiving lots of help and support when my son was very sick in the hospital. Several BT docs reached out. They knew me, and I knew exactly who they were.

BT still has those folks, but they are no longer the core of the dialogue. The level of the discussion has deteriorated some (necessarily so) to a more typical forum speak.

It probably seems very good to most folks coming in, but it won't ever be like it was.

Times change...I feel fortunate I came when I did. I have many lasting friendships as a result.

Best,

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 17:27

Username Protected wrote:

When folks reference the old BT, its hard to explain. Frankly, I came in on the tail-end of that. Everyone was 100% a gentleman, respectful, and courteous. We had very experienced guys willing to share often. The knowledge to BS ratio was very high. There was almost NO desire to puff one's chest. The identities of folks were highly transparent and impressive. Personal information was shared. Personal advice was given.

I clearly remember receiving lots of help and support when my son was very sick in the hospital. Several BT docs reached out. They knew me, and I knew exactly who they were.

REALLY well summed up, Jesse. Even down to the doc part (when my wife had a neurological thing with her eye - actually asked to have the MRI sent to them). :cheers:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 17:42

Username Protected wrote:

Who or what do you consider a "troll" or "BSr"? I haven't been here long at all but it seems like a lot of joking around and bull sh-tting goes on with the more established members. I'm fine with that by the way. It's odd though if you consider new people trolls or BSrs if they don't suck up and agree with the long-time BTrs.

David

David,

I assume you are addressing me.

I can think of about 5-10 "trolls" / "BSrs" that have been here since I joined. They are no longer here as far as I am aware. They can definitely stir up some trouble while they do their thing.

When folks reference the old BT, its hard to explain. Frankly, I came in on the tail-end of that. Everyone was 100% a gentleman, respectful, and courteous. We had very experienced guys willing to share often. The knowledge to BS ratio was very high. There was almost NO desire to puff one's chest. The identities of folks were highly transparent and impressive. Personal information was shared. Personal advice was given.

I clearly remember receiving lots of help and support when my son was very sick in the hospital. Several BT docs reached out. They knew me, and I knew exactly who they were.

BT still has those folks, but they are no longer the core of the dialogue. The level of the discussion has deteriorated some (necessarily so) to a more typical forum speak.

It probably seems very good to most folks coming in, but it won't ever be like it was.

Times change...I feel fortunate I came when I did. I have many lasting friendships as a result.

Best,

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 18:20

Username Protected wrote:

It should be really called Airplane Talk - because if I have an issue - I can usually find an answer here - regardless of model.

That would be the day I leave. I like most of the brandX talk but the thing that made this site great is that it's Beech centric (yes, still). There is PilotsOfAmerica, Aopa Forums, Jetcareers, BackcountryPilot, VansAirforce et. al. No need for another generic one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 18:23

Username Protected wrote:

It should be really called Airplane Talk - because if I have an issue - I can usually find an answer here - regardless of model.

That would be the day I leave. I like most of the brandX talk but the thing that made this site great is that it's Beech centric (yes, still). There is PilotsOfAmerica, Aopa Forums, Jetcareers, BackcountryPilot, VansAirforce et. al. No need for another generic one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 19:42

Username Protected wrote:

It should be really called Airplane Talk - because if I have an issue - I can usually find an answer here - regardless of model.

That would be the day I leave. I like most of the brandX talk but the thing that made this site great is that it's Beech centric (yes, still). There is PilotsOfAmerica, Aopa Forums, Jetcareers, BackcountryPilot, VansAirforce et. al. No need for another generic one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 19:45

Username Protected wrote:

Anyone who "bad mouths" Cirrus hasn't flown a new G5 Cirrus. You don't know what you don't know.

So True.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 20:23

Username Protected wrote:

That would be the day I leave. I like most of the brandX talk but the thing that made this site great is that it's Beech centric (yes, still). There is PilotsOfAmerica, Aopa Forums, Jetcareers, BackcountryPilot, VansAirforce et. al. No need for another generic one.

Nobody's changing the name of the website. It's just funny to suggest.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 20:36

Name needs no changing, but the tag line should be changed......

I suggest

A League of Extraordinary Airmen

now Airpeople is most probably more politically correct......

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Dec 2014, 22:54

Username Protected wrote:

How about GCBC Talk then... :-)

https://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum

also a great site with a fantastic community.

NOT Another Cirrus Parachute Thread