No, he was serious.

FIFY. No, he was cirrus.

exactly, a used bonanza or 182 are a much better value than a new SR20/22. That's why cirrus was never able to sell any piston airplanes, and are instead giving it another try with a jet

Yes, there are scenarios.

Wind at 6000 ft is tailwind of 10 knots. Wind at FL280 is headwind of 100 knots. Trip distance is 700 nm.

SR22 beats SF50 handily. SF50 can't fly low, or it makes a fuel stop. SF50 flies high, it has lower groundspeed than SR22, and probably still needs a fuel stop.

Don't think winds like that exist? Oh yes they do, I've seen them.

Even simpler: winds at 6000 ft are 10 knot headwind, FL280 150 knot headwind. SR22 still wins.

Mike C.

I read my policy.

Could not find this betterment clause.

Can you give a wording example of what that looks like?

The insurance can acquire a used engine of the same value as my damaged one if they so chose and can locate. If they have to repair mine so it is better than when it had the loss, I don't pay extra in my policy as I read it.

Mike C.

When buying a jet, you don't do an annual. You do a pre-buy. Mustang runs $10K for a pre-buy.

Or maybe I asked the right question but you answered the wrong one. I asked "what do you do if your engine needs replacement", not who pays for it or how often that happens.



That's the only question for which an answer is available. Obviously OEMs don't pay retail prices, but their prices are negotiated as percentage off a list price. That list price, if we can find it, would be a good indicator of the relative value.



This web site also says overhaul on FJ44 is $350K. So much for accurate info.

http://www.aircraftbluebook.com/Navigat ... emier%201A


This is the conclusion I come to after hearing your arguments, which are not supported by any provable facts.

Yuri - do you know how happy we would both be.. Owning part of an SF50.. I think you should totally pull the rug from underneath your children.. Education should take a backseat to jet ownership..

You asked:

"What do you do if your engine is not on a program and it suffers a catastrophic event requiring engine replacement?"

I answered that question.


There is no list price because there is no list.

The engine folks simply don't publish a price.


What do you know, twice what they say a PW610F is.

And that's the point. Two smaller engines about the same price as one larger one.

Mike C.

A "pre-buy" doesn't reset the clock. I say it's worth spending more to just do an annual. That $10K gets you nothing.

Ok, extremely rare occasions. BTW the SF50 would still be going faster in that scenario unless you are talking about a turbocharged SR22.

Also, I have flown on multiple 100kts headwind days at FL280 and every single time the winds low were still the same direction and 20-30 kts. I have experienced wind shifts at lower altitudes but only 2-3 times in the 700 hours I've flown in the flight levels.

A "pre-buy" doesn't reset the clock. I say it's worth spending more to just do an annual. That $10K gets you nothing.

As has already been said in previous posts....... Mustang isn't on Phase Inspections. Nor are any new jets designed in the last 10 years or so.

A "pre-buy" doesn't reset the clock. I say it's worth spending more to just do an annual. That $10K gets you nothing.

As has already been said in previous posts....... Mustang isn't on Phase Inspections. Nor are any new jets designed in the last 10 years or so.