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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p  Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 16:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: There are people that self insure their $20 million jets, this is all relative in that what matters to some doesn't matter to others! Just clarifying - I am guessing some don't buy hull insurance but I would think few would self-insure the liability part, right? I don't got the cojones to go naked on liability!
it is not possible to purchase just hull insurance and no liability. You can however purchase liability without hull coverage. I would say it is very common (for those that don't self insure) for IVP and IVP turbine owners so go 'liability only' as hull insurance for this make and model is ridiculously high.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 19:21 |
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Question for Tom,
Is it possible to purchase External liability only... ie no insurance for the aircraft occupants, but insurance to protect any un-involved third parties.....
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 19:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: Question for Tom,
Is it possible to purchase External liability only... ie no insurance for the aircraft occupants, but insurance to protect any un-involved third parties..... Paul- Yes some carriers will offer for instance $1m in liability excluding passengers - however this liability limit is generally associated with ground not in motion hull insurance (or non flight hull coverages). I don't think I can recall a policy written with full flight coverages and liability to exclude passengers (unless of course you are insuring an aircraft which has no passenger seats (such as a single seat machine).
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 10 Feb 2017, 12:24 |
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Lancair, except for the Evolution was sold to the Huffstuttlers of Sierra Ind. In Uvalde TX. This is great news, and I predict improvements for the -IV & IV-P...
They are really smart people.....And good business folks too....
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 10 Feb 2017, 14:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: Lancair, except for the Evolution was sold to the Huffstuttlers of Sierra Ind. In Uvalde TX. This is great news, and I predict improvements for the -IV & IV-P...
They are really smart people.....And good business folks too.... Saw that release. Haven't heard much from RDD on their LX7 mod lately.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 10 Feb 2017, 14:53 |
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That's really interesting.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 10 Feb 2017, 19:28 |
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That's great news. I was thinking RDD bought them; obviously not.
Mine is getting really close to being done. New G3X panel, air conditioning, condition inspection by the best in the business!
I miss it and have gone on virtually no trips lately; Lancairs are real lifestyle assets/time machines.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 10:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mine is getting really close to being done. New G3X panel, air conditioning, condition inspection by the best in the business!
I miss it and have gone on virtually no trips lately; Lancairs are real lifestyle assets/time machines. Michael, How long before you sell it once you get it back all fancied up? 
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 10:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mine is getting really close to being done. New G3X panel, air conditioning, condition inspection by the best in the business!
I miss it and have gone on virtually no trips lately; Lancairs are real lifestyle assets/time machines. Michael, How long before you sell it once you get it back all fancied up?
I think I'm going to keep it a long time. I obviously have severe airplane ADD but there's really nothing else out there can do what this airplane does:
1) Can land on grass
2) Piston (turbine ban at my grass strip)
3) Good looking
4) 250kts+
5) Long range
6) Fun to fly
7) good climb rate
8) pressurized
9) air conditioning
10) state of the art avionics
11) Relatively good value
I really can't think of another airplane that does all this stuff so well.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 11:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: 2) Piston (turbine ban at my grass strip)
4) 250kts+ Those two are very limiting. Why the turbine ban? The locals prefer spewing lead out the exhaust? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 11:22 |
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Username Protected wrote:
I think I'm going to keep it a long time. I obviously have severe airplane ADD but there's really nothing else out there can do what this airplane does:
1) Can land on grass
2) Piston (turbine ban at my grass strip)
3) Good looking
4) 250kts+
5) Long range
6) Fun to fly
7) good climb rate
8) pressurized
9) air conditioning
10) state of the art avionics
11) Relatively good value
I really can't think of another airplane that does all this stuff so well.
For two people and small dog or two, it cant be beat. It would be perfect if it had a baggage compartment that could hold stuff for four people. Space is really its only shortfall.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 12:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: 2) Piston (turbine ban at my grass strip)
4) 250kts+ Those two are very limiting. Why the turbine ban? The locals prefer spewing lead out the exhaust? Mike C.
Owner is obsessed with the grass and thinks all turbines will burn up his field. Not really fair or logical...
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 12:21 |
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Username Protected wrote:
I think I'm going to keep it a long time. I obviously have severe airplane ADD but there's really nothing else out there can do what this airplane does:
1) Can land on grass
2) Piston (turbine ban at my grass strip)
3) Good looking
4) 250kts+
5) Long range
6) Fun to fly
7) good climb rate
8) pressurized
9) air conditioning
10) state of the art avionics
11) Relatively good value
I really can't think of another airplane that does all this stuff so well.
For two people and small dog or two, it cant be beat. It would be perfect if it had a baggage compartment that could hold stuff for four people. Space is really its only shortfall.
It will hold 2 roller bags and that's about it so I 100% agree with your assessment. It's a comfortable 2-3 seat airplane. 4 people on a trip would likely require FedExing luggage which is probably not that big a deal. I'm done playing airline for my friends which is exactly what a Baron encourages.
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Post subject: Re: Lancair IV-p Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 12:31 |
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turbines cannot land on grass
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