BeechTalk - BT - Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Diesel

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 16:40

Username Protected wrote:

The guy sounded like he has no idea what he's doing (in terms of basic engineering knowledge). I had the impression I was listening to some pilot at the fly in breakfast ...

There's a reason for that.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 16:41

Username Protected wrote:

He just makes up the science as he goes.

As much as some would like to believe, if you're making it up as you go, it's not science.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 16:58

I did a search on "hybrid electric aircraft". There is a ton of interest in the idea, but I couldn't find a single example of an aircraft that's actually flying. There is a Cessna 337 with an electric motor in the back and a Lycoming upfront. They are calling it a "Hybrid" but I hardly think that counts.

Several deep-pocket organizations including NASA are working on it, but so far nothing more than artist renderings exist.

So, if we are going to buy into this Raptor NG concept we have to believe that somehow Peter is going to be among the first in the world to pull it off. Yet auto engine conversions have been done many times with some success and he couldn't get close to pulling that off.

There is a part of me that would like to see the saga continue, but the reality is that somebody needs to put a fork in it; it's done.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 17:33

Username Protected wrote:

He just makes up the science as he goes.

As much as some would like to believe, if you're making it up as you go, it's not science.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 17:48

I am amazed that others are willing to fund Peter’s efforts. It seems that there is very little due diligence by the investor(s).

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 17:49

Username Protected wrote:

I am amazed that others are willing to fund Peter’s efforts. It seems that there is very little due diligence by the investor(s).

Tax write off? Loss leader? I dunno, above my pay grade, but I agree.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 17:53

Username Protected wrote:

I am amazed that others are willing to fund Peter’s efforts. It seems that there is very little due diligence by the investor(s).

I think it is safe to assume that they are not active members of Beechtalk!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 18:39

Username Protected wrote:

I am amazed that others are willing to fund Peter’s efforts.

I think it is safe to assume that they are not active members of Beechtalk!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 19:24

His solution to pressurization? He was asked about it in the reply section of his latest video. See this little nugget of PM creativity/science:

Raptor Aircraft
18 hours ago
We are planning on using a system similar to a home oxygen concentrator. It does not require tanks and there is no need for cannulas and there is no risk of a loss of cabin pressure. It's also way lighter and very low maintenance. The only down side is that you will not feel the pressure.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 19:30

Username Protected wrote:

His solution to pressurization? He was asked about it in the reply section of his latest video. See this little nugget of PM creativity/science:

Raptor Aircraft
18 hours ago
We are planning on using a system similar to a home oxygen concentrator. It does not require tanks and there is no need for cannulas and there is no risk of a loss of cabin pressure. It's also way lighter and very low maintenance. The only down side is that you will not feel the pressure.

You simply can’t fix stupid.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 20:57

Username Protected wrote:

His solution to pressurization? He was asked about it in the reply section of his latest video. See this little nugget of PM creativity/science:

Raptor Aircraft
18 hours ago
We are planning on using a system similar to a home oxygen concentrator. It does not require tanks and there is no need for cannulas and there is no risk of a loss of cabin pressure. It's also way lighter and very low maintenance. The only down side is that you will not feel the pressure.

Wow, this truly can't be real anymore right? right? :tape:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 21:18

Username Protected wrote:

His solution to pressurization? He was asked about it in the reply section of his latest video. See this little nugget of PM creativity/science:

Raptor Aircraft
18 hours ago
We are planning on using a system similar to a home oxygen concentrator. It does not require tanks and there is no need for cannulas and there is no risk of a loss of cabin pressure. It's also way lighter and very low maintenance. The only down side is that you will not feel the pressure.

Do I understand correctly. Is he saying that with a "system similar to a home oxygen concentrator" he's going to increase the O2 percentage in the entire cabin? That would seem to be the conclusion if you don't need a cannula.

We need to get Peter off this whole Raptor thing and move him over to Global Warming. If he can figure out a way to easily increase the O2 percentage in an unpressurized cabin, he could surely find a way to knock a couple of hundred PPM CO2 out of the atmosphere.

Problem solved.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 21:31

Where’s Ashton Kutcher???? I think we’re all being punked!! O2 concentrator, indeed.

Peter, Peter, the pumpkin eater, your party….is nowwwwww……dooooone!!!(Garth Brooks, Midnight Cinderella reference there, for the un-initiated)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 22:21

Username Protected wrote:

His solution to pressurization? He was asked about it in the reply section of his latest video. See this little nugget of PM creativity/science:

Raptor Aircraft
18 hours ago
We are planning on using a system similar to a home oxygen concentrator. It does not require tanks and there is no need for cannulas and there is no risk of a loss of cabin pressure. It's also way lighter and very low maintenance. The only down side is that you will not feel the pressure.

This is why I come here. You can’t pay for better entertainment and this is all free!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2021, 23:08

Username Protected wrote:

His solution to pressurization? He was asked about it in the reply section of his latest video. See this little nugget of PM creativity/science:

Raptor Aircraft
18 hours ago
We are planning on using a system similar to a home oxygen concentrator. It does not require tanks and there is no need for cannulas and there is no risk of a loss of cabin pressure. It's also way lighter and very low maintenance. The only down side is that you will not feel the pressure.

I think it's more fantasy than science unless you consider science fiction.