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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die  Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 15:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Todays flight saw him up to 4320 ft and 147 knots.
That is almost equivalent to an old Seneca on one engine! Isn't that a pretty accurate comparison with respect to weight and power? Not sure that should really be in green...
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 16:11 |
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Sadly, that was groundspeed, not TAS...he picked up 20mph when he turned SW, then lost it when he turned back NE. Seems like he's a pretty consistent 125-130kts at that ???% power setting. 
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 16:56 |
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When he was in Valdosta his initial ROC was 600-700 fpm for the first minute or two. Today the data only showed one hit of 500 fpm. Everything else was lower. Clearing the airport perimeter fence at a 4000’ MSL airport should be pretty exciting.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 21:32 |
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Meanwhile in this months EAA Sport Aviation... This guy has almost made the plane, with no fanfare. Falcon Turbine Attachment: falconturbine.jpg 188 Kts, 18-19 GPH @ 12,000 90 Gal fuel.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 22:51 |
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So, there’s a new video up. If I understand correctly, PM plans to fly the his creation to KTWF. In the last 24 hours, the DA at KTWF never dropped below 5000 feet. Raptor can’t produce a triple digit climb rate at 4000 feet. I guess that is THE destination, so if he makes it there, he won’t need to take-off again. Everything should work out OK, then.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 08:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Meanwhile in this months EAA Sport Aviation...
This guy has almost made the plane, with no fanfare.
Falcon Turbine
188 Kts, 18-19 GPH @ 12,000 90 Gal fuel. "Almost made the plane"?  I think this is the 3rd turboprop Velocity that's been made. Performance is a bit disappointing. But at least he'll be able to go higher than a piston engine. I got 199kts, 13.5GPH @ 8,000' with 90 gallon tanks.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 09:45 |
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Quote: "Almost made the plane"? Well, what do I know. Yours is faster than the turbine one, which is only 260 HP. Looks slick like all the rest of them.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 10:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well, what do I know. I just don't know what you meant.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 10:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well, what do I know. I just don't know what you meant.
Don,
I think he means the raptor already almost exists. It is called a Velocity. It is better by geometric margins.
Can you start a velocity thread. I am intrigued by them.
Can they be deiced? Is the Canard really greatly effected by rain? How much baggage is there?
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 11:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can they be deiced? Is the Canard really greatly effected by rain? How much baggage is there? The larger question is "can they be pressurized", and the answer there is "not without some serious re-engineering". That said, it would make something close to what the Raptor was claiming to be.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 12:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: If I understand correctly, PM plans to fly the his creation to KTWF. In the last 24 hours, the DA at KTWF never dropped below 5000 feet. Raptor can’t produce a triple digit climb rate at 4000 feet. No problem. It's so slow, with such short range, that by the time he gets there it will be winter.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 12:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: The larger question is "can they be pressurized", and the answer there is "not without some serious re-engineering". That said, it would make something close to what the Raptor was claiming to be. Raptor can’t be pressurized “without some serious re-engineering”. By that one metric Raptor and Velocity are equals.
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