The decision makers bought a lot of Citations.

Simple, known planform, redundant propulsion and systems, high flying, efficient.


I predict they won't "take over the market". No current jet maker is even remotely concerned about the SF50. It is a toy jet.

In fact, the SF50 will drive new sales to the establish players when those who bought an SF50 realize they can fly a real jet for the same or less cost. Any pilot trying to get something done won't stay long in an SF50.

If the SR22 flew at 120 knots and burned 25 GPH doing it, that would be the equivalent. And that would be enough to cause it not to sell.

Mike C.

yawn. Yes, let's concede all your points. It can't top weather. It's slow. It's thirsty. It lacks twin engine redundancy. No is disputing any of that. No need to keep repeating it. Now let's sit back and watch them sell like hotcakes at an EAA breakfast.

Like the Eclipse?

You don't see the difference between the 2 companies?

You can have the greatest product in the world but that doesn't mean it's going to sell.

Right airplane layout (twin), wrong avionics and construction method, wrong company management.

If Cirrus had bought the Eclipse corpse, redesigned it so it can be made economically, put good avionics in it, there would already be 1000 of them flying by now.

Mike C.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1WA ... /KTYS/KMEM

You fly a jet for 1.5 hours and you are STILL in the same state?!?!

WTF?

SR22 does this flight, in these conditions, in about 15 minutes more.

Mike C.

Sounds like an MU2 with a chute in lieu of a second engine. Of course no props to deal with or vibrate, one engine to maintain, centerline thrust, fits in a Thangar, state of the art avionics and AP, spacious cabin, its brand new.

Looks perfect to me. Load the plane with the wife and kids and head to Graceland for lunch. SR22 with a max load would be significantly slower on climb.

Tim

Huh. Stayed low at 20k to avoid winds? I wonder what the tradeoff is like.

To be fair Mike, it's a really wide state.

To be fair Mike, it's a really wide state.

Not really.

SF50 on this trip, took 13 minutes 2800 ft to FL200, average 1323 FPM.

SR22 climb rate, from Cirrus web site, is 1270 FPM.

The SR22 is at cruise (6000 ft) way quicker than the SF50, probably 6-7 minutes. It simply doesn't have to climb as much and with the headwind, it can economically travel at 6000 ft.

Mike C.

Happiness can be achieved by low expectations.

Mike C.

Happiness can be achieved by low expectations.

Mike C.

This thread reminds me of the conversation I had with my neighbor a few years ago as he was ridiculing my little VW pickup truck. We have the same size boats.

Him: That's silly what you are doing there, that thing can't tow that boat.

Me: Sure it can, we were skiing and now the boat is back in the driveway. It towed it.

Him: no it can't. Hills, stop signs, needing to accelerate into traffic. You can't do that with anything less than an F-250 like mine.

Me: there aren't any hills, stop signs, or traffic between our houses and the river. It's right there (pointing)

Him: But i could take mine to the ozarks tomorrow and those hills would be a breeze.

me: But you don't. You only go on the river like us. We never tow these things more than a couple hundred yards. you don't even have tires on one of your trailer axles.

Him: But i could, and I'd go fast and still be be safe. You are an idiot towing with that thing.