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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.  Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 19:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: I saw this at Midland International this morning. Was it any of y’all? According to the FAA database, tail# N184AV is owned by "BLOATED GUPPIE LLC". Which is a good name for the P180. 
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 19:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: I saw this at Midland International this morning. Was it any of y’all? According to the FAA database, tail# N184AV is owned by "BLOATED GUPPIE LLC". Which is a good name for the P180.
My wife and I call them CATFISH!
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 20:50 |
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Brian,
You, Tony and me go in on one and we'll keep it at Sundance with the other one up there! I'd sell my B100 for this!
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 20:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Brian,
You, Tony and me go in on one and we'll keep it at Sundance with the other one up there! I'd sell my B100 for this!  I couldn’t afford a tanks worth of gas in that thing! Of course if you eventually want someone to share pilot duties 
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 07:48 |
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I’m wondering if anyone would have or know of where I can get my hands on a PDF file of a piaggio 1 POH/AFM? I’m looking into some information for a client on performance.
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Wes Van Mierlo
BT67,C90 Pilot and AME
Enterprise Airlines
CYOO
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 09:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: I’m wondering if anyone would have or know of where I can get my hands on a PDF file of a piaggio 1 POH/AFM? I’m looking into some information for a client on performance.
Thanks in advance
Wes Van Mierlo
BT67,C90 Pilot and AME
Enterprise Airlines
CYOO I have one. PM me your email and I can send it over.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 21:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ah man, if you're just as happy, then Adam was onto something BIGLY.
I'll definitely need one I keep wondering "what's the catch"? I have been around aviation 45 years and rarely if ever have I found the equivalent of a 'free lunch' in terms of an aircrafts specs. This one seems to do it. The company is a mess and has always been a mess it seems in terms of their marketing skills. But they build a helluva airplane! MU2 level of robustness. VLJ level of fuel flows and CJ1+ speeds. Best of all the largest cabin cross section of anything short of a Gulfstream or Canadair! The seats are the size of a G. There is a LOT of support for them as well. This surprised me. Intercontinental Jet, Weststar and Broadies all are factory service centers with great reputations. If you are going to buy, better look around. I have a feeling now that the early 180 models are under 1MM there is going to be more demand (post Covid of course) for them as they can be retrofitted (as I am doing) with incredible interiors, glass avionics and super cool paint jobs. Here is an early one that was just finished...this is my template as well... Now imagine this cabin can go 380 knots on 600 lbs of fuel an hour with FL410 ceiling and 1200 mile range with reserves. For less than the cost of a decent Mustang or CJ1...
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 21:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can the Proline models get avionics retrofits? Jon, No unfortunately not Garmin stuff, but I believe the Fusion upgrade is available for them (a bit more costly though). 300K I believe someone told me - 500K if it doesn't have the file server. Reality is, the later ones (post 2004) end up having less range because they burn more fuel in the climb. The pre 2005 ones are the best deals right now.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 21:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can the Proline models get avionics retrofits? Jon, No unfortunately not Garmin stuff, but I believe the Fusion upgrade is available for them (a bit more costly though). 300K I believe someone told me - 500K if it doesn't have the file server. Reality is, the later ones (post 2004) end up having less range because they burn more fuel in the climb. The pre 2005 ones are the best deals right now.
Where are you looking? I could only find post 2008 models on Controller right now (not the most exhaustive search I admit).
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