I wonder if people who buy into this normalize hourly cost with the speed differential.

Couple of different ways to define a day.

But there will always be the day when you want the plane to be somewhere and someone else booked it. For that annoyance you just paid $525K...

There is more than 1. I think he has 3 right now.

But yeah, that's the downside to fractional ownership. How much is a new Eclipse? $525K ain't bad. Does this really need to be explained?

Let's just say I don't understand fractional ownership. It's exactly like renting a plane at a flight school, except the planes are a little nicer. No difference whatsoever.

I can not think of anything worse at this stage of my life then to have to submit myself to club policy, club overlords, recurrent checkouts, rules, vacuuming plane out after use, returning it filled up, restock the wet wipes, wipe the leading edges off for the next guy to the tune of $525K... What's the point of being financially better off if it's exactly like being a kid again and having to be told to clean my room?

But I'm glad some people do. More power to them.

How long you been restoring that Commander?

Told you I was slumming it, but at least my integrity is intact!

The $525K to buy in is not gone. You get back what's left when they sell the plane in 4 years and buy another.

I've flown with them a bunch. Plane is pulled out, fueled and GPU'd when you arrive. They park your car and load you bags. It's 1st class. You do nothing but fly. Lot's of service on hand. It's not a rental plane sitting in a T hangar you gotta pull out and get ready.

So do you with the renters deposit at the flight school...

I edited my post above.

Let's just say I don't understand fractional ownership. It's exactly like renting a plane at a flight school, except the planes are a little nicer. No difference whatsoever.

I can not think of anything worse at this stage of my life then to have to submit myself to club policy, club overlords, recurrent checkouts, rules, vacuuming plane out after use, returning it filled up, restock the wet wipes, wipe the leading edges off for the next guy to the tune of $525K... What's the point of being financially better off if it's exactly like being a kid again and having to be told to clean my room?

But I'm glad some people do. More power to them.

I was in Rockford ILL this morning and saw a SF50 do a low pass.

Heck, I understand the pilot that simply wants to sit in the back and relax as well.

The point I don't get is filling full fuel all the time when you bring it back.
What do you do when you want to bring a full cabin of passenger 1-2 hrs away and the plane as full fuel?
Then you pay ramp fees because you don't want to takeoff heavy again at destination?
I fuel my plane when I know where im going and what payload I have.






Let's just say I don't understand fractional ownership. It's exactly like renting a plane at a flight school, except the planes are a little nicer. No difference whatsoever.

I can not think of anything worse at this stage of my life then to have to submit myself to club policy, club overlords, recurrent checkouts, rules, vacuuming plane out after use, returning it filled up, restock the wet wipes, wipe the leading edges off for the next guy to the tune of $525K... What's the point of being financially better off if it's exactly like being a kid again and having to be told to clean my room?

But I'm glad some people do. More power to them.

When does any of this happen?

I'm not sure they want you to do that, I was just making a point of inconvenience.