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 Post subject: Re: Finishing my new Glasair III
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Can I move my Sundowner into the experimental class and do the same thing with my panel? Glass, Autopilot, engine monitoring for a fraction of the certified price....

The coolaid is starting to taste pretty good.

Nice panel Todd!

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The good thing is that you can have it either way or have it both ways - do tapes on one screen and rounds on the other :D

I'm going to tell them to change the VSI limits. I don't think I have ever descended slower than 3k per minute and it is usually 4-5k.

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Can I move my Sundowner into the experimental class and do the same thing with my panel? Glass, Autopilot, engine monitoring for a fraction of the certified price....

The coolaid is starting to taste pretty good.

Nice panel Todd!

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Yes and no. Technically, if you could convince Dynon or Garmin to build you the exact same system they sell except that they built it by "your direction" and you supplied the materials you then could legally install the system in your plane.

I really think this system will be available for just about any GA plane in the next 5 years. There is no reason it should not be. For instance, the autopilot is infinitely adjustable to any airframe simply by changing the values in the software through the touchscreen. You find the value that works and dial it in. No shims, springs, washers, etc. No "computer specific" autopilots for each airframe, etc. I think the wiring will get even more simplified in the future as well. I think the next step is modular units that simply plug into the back of the screen. Want a #2 GPS - plug it in. Want a #2 comm - plug it in. Have a bad transponder - pop it off the back of the screen and replace. Power will go to the main screen and be available to the modules plug and play. The only wiring then needed would be for autopilot servos, antennas, and the magnetometer. How much labor would you save if 95% of the wiring was eliminated? This is the future of avionics and the G3x is just one of the first steps.

What I want next is a FLIR camera mounted on the front of the plane and displayed on the Synthetic Vision or map screen. 0/0 landings? No problem!

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I'd love to see the first low pass at full speed. Anybody shooting video?

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I'd love to see the first low pass at full speed. Anybody shooting video?


I have to be careful about that. Full speed level is about 250 knots. Airport traffic area speed is 200 and below 10k is 250.

It will have to be 199 ;)

I will get someone to get some video soon. We are also going to mount a VIRB in the plane.

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I'm going to tell them to change the VSI limits. I don't think I have ever descended slower than 3k per minute and it is usually 4-5k.


you normally descend 4-5k feet a minute? i don't see how ATC will play nice with that, and if you're VFR doing that....well, wow...

you won't be doing anywhere near 250kts IAS at ground levels, try your hardest


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The G3X is a heck of a unit. 3X better than my G500 for 1/3 the price... I really like those analog instrument representations.

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I'm going to tell them to change the VSI limits. I don't think I have ever descended slower than 3k per minute and it is usually 4-5k.


you normally descend 4-5k feet a minute? i don't see how ATC will play nice with that, and if you're VFR doing that....well, wow...

you won't be doing anywhere near 250kts IAS at ground levels, try your hardest


I've never found ATC to be particularly concerned with fast descent rates, and I've come down a lot faster than that while flying IFR. Nothing wrong with doing it VFR, either.
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I've never found ATC to be particularly concerned with fast descent rates, and I've come down a lot faster than that while flying IFR. Nothing wrong with doing it VFR, either.


perhaps it's the airspace i usually find myself in, you'd be swapping between multiple controllers doing that around Atlanta or Eglin and you'd not make many friends without coordinating those types of descents


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you won't be doing anywhere near 250kts IAS at ground levels, try your hardest


Glasair in a dive for the runway, approaching an airport at full WOT. You might be surprised ;-) He might be indicating closer to 290...


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you won't be doing anywhere near 250kts IAS at ground levels, try your hardest


Glasair in a dive for the runway, approaching an airport at full WOT. You might be surprised ;-)


I think he's saying you'd be faster than 250.
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I think he's saying you'd be faster than 250.


Sorry, missed that.


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you normally descend 4-5k feet a minute? i don't see how ATC will play nice with that, and if you're VFR doing that....well, wow...

you won't be doing anywhere near 250kts IAS at ground levels, try your hardest



If they give you PD you can descend at any rate you want and long as you do not cross 250 below 10k.

I will take you up on that 250 knot bet. I had 231 knots indicated at 1500 ft running it at 2600 RPM on the old prop. I think the new prop will be 5-10 knots faster and another 100 RPM might make another 3-4 knots. Might not be 250, but will be very close. As for 250 in the pattern - that is real easy. 5 degrees of pitch down at full throttle will put you well over 300 knots indicated.

There are Glasairs at Reno turning 400 MPH laps. Granted, they are making 500HP, but 2/3 more HP does not make 2/3 more speed.

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The G3X is a heck of a unit. 3X better than my G500 for 1/3 the price... I really like those analog instrument representations.


Thanks Adam - it seems very capable and I hope it is as reliable as the certified stuff. I too like the round gauge option. What I really like is the ability to configure the screens anyway you want them and the touch ability. I'm going to go check out the installation in a few hours. Hope to fly it Friday.

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Todd I have been following your story and enjoying it plus I love the paint layout.
I also noticed your weather reports as well as I grew up on a farm in So.Illinois and of course have told the Grand kids.

"You kids have it easy now as when I was a boy I got up at 4.30 to slop the hogs and feed the Cows before breakfast then walked 5 miles to school barefooted thru the snow uphill both ways and in those days the snow drifted as high as the fence posts"

The trouble is MOST of that was true and in fact I joined the Marines to get off the farm.

I am looking forward to your flight report


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