Not if you hold "single pilot" in high regard and to me, that's the "be all end all". In that arena you cap out at PC12, Phenom, KA350, Citation V in terms of size, speed and range. To me, there is nothing left to go to.

So go sit in the back seat of your rented Hawker. Plan your trips weeks in advance. Enjoy

Not if you hold "single pilot" in high regard and to me, that's the "be all end all". In that arena you cap out at PC12, Phenom, KA350, Citation V in terms of size, speed and range. To me, there is nothing left to go to.

So go sit in the back seat of your rented Hawker. Plan your trips weeks in advance. Enjoy

But not north-south (other than on the coasts), or across TX, or north of MA.

I want the freedom to travel without the need to plan my route with regard to charging stations. I want transportation, not social interaction. The Tesla is a $100k toy.

I fly 300+ hours a year. You're comparing apples and oranges.

Wow, thanks guys for all the PMs. Really appreciate your support and kind words.

I've replied to a few but sorry if I don't get to replying to each one, I'm about to dart out the door for some meetings ...so making my last post here a blanket thank you and I hear ya.

I'll say the same thing Jeff and I have said before--no personal attacks.

I've cleaned up the thread as much as possible.

Just remember, "it's just an internet forum."

But not north-south (other than on the coasts), or across TX, or north of MA.

I want the freedom to travel without the need to plan my route with regard to charging stations. I want transportation, not social interaction. The Tesla is a $100k toy.

Funny this comes up. I've wanted one since they first came out and stupid me, didn't invest in the company. I'm in Frankfurt, Germany on business and this picture is from yesterday. Tesla is rapidly expanding.


Sorry... thread drift.

I fly 300+ hours a year. You're comparing apples and oranges.

+1

Jason - What real speed are you seeing in the PC 12 that you're able to go cross country no stops? Friends tell me you're at 250 kts or so. Is that your experience?

BTW, the KA 350 can do full pax full fuel single pilot at something well over 300 kts. Hold 3,600lbs of fuel and roughly 1600nm full fuel. Very different economics, of course, from both an operating and a maintenance point of view.

In the summer I get 270-ish. In the winter 277-ish. It's about a 10 knot swing between summer and winter. No PC12NG goes 250..... Where is this info coming from?

My plane holds 2700lbs of gas. High twenties I'm burning 350-370PPH.

I've done coast to coast non stop a few times.

Yes, I think the 350 will do the same mission but it's burning a lot more gas to do it and depreciating a lot more every day compared to the PC12. Like I said earlier in this thread..... For the fuel burn of a KA350, I'll take a Phenom 300 and go 450 knots and make it coast to coast non stop.

Jason would make a great pilatus salesman... Here's yesterday's flight, humid, hot southern summer day.



Let's see what the Pilatus app says the airplane should be going



I'm in max cruise pulling 28.8 just like the books says, ITT with in 2c of norm, and I'm 1kt faster than book burning 10lbs and hour less than book..

Reality...

Not reality. You're flying it wrong. Why are you so down on the PC12?

But not north-south (other than on the coasts), or across TX, or north of MA.

I want the freedom to travel without the need to plan my route with regard to charging stations. I want transportation, not social interaction. The Tesla is a $100k toy.