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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio  Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 12:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Why haven't they offered a more powerful PT6 for the PC12? There's a 2000Hp version out there. Imagine that on your plane. 300kts plus? More? It would certainly be a no brainer for the jet upgrade questions then. Pilatus is waiting to see what comes of the Denali. They're not going to show their hand yet. That's the next question..... when will Denali start delivering if they're "saying" 1st flight is "early 2019".
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 12:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: JC - These guys are the best I have ever seen - they do a lot of PC-12's. You will not be disappointed. http://www.corriganaircenter.com/Thanks you. I'll call them.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: If only there were ANY performance improvements.... There is some minor aerodynamic cleanup that adds maybe 10kts, flush door handle and a slightly enhanced wing root fairing. Also the 5 blade prop is much quieter and smoother in my opinion... electric gear instead of hydraulic.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: I thought programs were pretty much par for the course in the turbine world? What's different about PC12 ownership? I don't think the TBM or Merdien guys do it either. Don't think the KA guys do either.
It is very rare to have a turboprop on an engine program, we have done one to date... new Blackhawk -67's the deal was good and made sense. We are currently considering putting VMax (Vector) on a set of -60A's we just had overhauled at Standard Aero (formerly Vector) the rate seems really reasonable and third run -60A overhauls can get really pricey.
When considering an engine program on a King Air (I've never seen a program on a TBM or Pilatus) there are a lot of factors to consider, especially that you aren't going to see much of an add to the resale value unless you are really close to TBO and IMHO it only makes sense on the big engines where overhaul prices can be painful and operating past TBO isn't usually viable.
If you are comfortable with the above it simply becomes a math problem. What's the hourly rate, multiply that by 3600, subtract from the total your expected overhaul and hot section cost... that negative number is how much you paid for insurance against an unscheduled engine event and peace of mind.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: Jason - wouldn't the Blackhawk KA 350 do everything you want? Faster than PC12, still use short runways, good payload and range, new. They are claiming 332KTS, that would make a dent on your runs West. Bad payload and range compared to PC12.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Jason - wouldn't the Blackhawk KA 350 do everything you want? Faster than PC12, still use short runways, good payload and range, new. They are claiming 332KTS, that would make a dent on your runs West. Bad payload and range compared to PC12.
What?
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: What? Feel free to elaborate more than "what?"
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:25 |
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Yeah, what?? Full-fuel payload is over 1500 lbs......
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: What? Feel free to elaborate more than "what?"
The PC-12 has less range and payload than a King Air 350...
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:31 |
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Username Protected wrote:
The PC-12 has less range and payload than a King Air 350...
Where talking about the Blackhawk.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: 350ER bumps that full tanks payload to almost 2k.  Nobody said anything about ER. "Blackhawk" is key word. What is the range and payload of a Blackhawk 350?
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