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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 19:44 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12087 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Were they able to pull that out with just one tug? For $2.31 a gallon I would have waited.
Gary Uhhh no. Turned out I got the story wrong. That was the second truck and it had fuel in it. It got stuck enroute. So the truck that ran out had to go back and refuel in order to finish me off. I have no idea how they are going to pull a fuel laden truck out of the mud.
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 19:52 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12087 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Turbulence from the same Sirius XM receiver (GDL51) shown on two different displays. Aera 660 and iPad GP. They don’t agree on location. Hmmm. Same age (15 minutes). Same shape.  PS..it was smooth the whole way. Both depict FL300
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_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 20:00 |
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Joined: 01/31/09 Posts: 5193 Post Likes: +3032 Location: Northern NJ
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Username Protected wrote: Not enough of a fuel imbalance to prevent you from taking off and stopping for fuel along the way. Possible but what would it accomplish? Add a cycle too.
Get you moving in the right direction instead of waiting. I didn’t know how long that wait would be. Would have been worse if they grounded you with min fuel in one tank and full fuel in the other.
I never worry that much about cycles.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 21:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Myron F’s plane?  Well played sir, well played.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 08:16 |
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Joined: 07/23/09 Posts: 1115 Post Likes: +630 Location: KSJT
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Username Protected wrote: KDFW corporate aviation. I placed a contract fuel order for $2.31 gal. The fuel release said to top by departure. They didn’t. Third in line. They ran out of fuel filling me. They had to go refuel truck. Texting and driving it got stuck in the mud. I kid you not.
I could get mad. Talk to a supervisor. But what’s the point. It happens. I’m not sure why but Corporate Aviaton is notorious for being slow to fuel. Quick turn doesn’t exist in their vocabulary.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 15:20 |
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Joined: 01/28/13 Posts: 6218 Post Likes: +4245 Location: Indiana
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Brent For a quick turn and good kero prices hit KGPH in Kansas City. Great service and quick! $2.99 today it looks like. Should be since FBO name is “Quick Turn Flight Support”. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 06 Mar 2018, 00:32 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12087 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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At SIMCOM for SPE recurrent. Today started with breakfast with my instructor. I am not above a bribe  All systems work. Tiring. As always I learned a few things. Interesting to see how things change. E.g. used to be the only time you couldn’t cross feed was in descent. No more. Crossfeed anytime prior to FAF. Start process was 8% rpm then power levers over the gate to idle. Introducing fuel and light off. Now it is motor until Engine reaches about 14% then add fuel. More airflow, cooler start. Also watching fuel flow as an leading indicator of a hot start vs ITT. The last hour of the day was debriefing my first sim ride at 8am tomorrow. If you are interested here is the plan: Start at FBO at JFK. Variety of start issues: wet, hung, hot, generator, battery. Weather 200ovc RVR 600 Clearance JFK4 dep wavey then rv practice area. Maintain 5k Abort TO roll for some reason. Steep turns 360. Both directions Stalls: Clean Departure Landing Unusual attitudes Approaches ILS 4L coupled fly published missed Hold Engine fail in hold Single engine approach Single engine missed Vectors ILS 4 Lose AP/ FD Hand fly to SE landing Depart 13R V1 cuts engine shut down Engine restart RV RNAV GPS Y 4R CTL31 R Depart 4R V2 cut RV 31L AP fail over FAF Raw data ILS Land 4L departure Blown tire on Take off. Then debrief and ground school until 5. Wish me luck.
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 06 Mar 2018, 15:36 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12087 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Day 1 in sim complete. No major mistakes. Didn’t really sweat that hard although I was very busy. Single pilot and all. John L stopped by to audit the sim session. He was quiet as a church mouse. He did get the fun of setting my unusual attitudes. I am sure if he had free reign I would have been inverted but common sense prevailed. He did laugh out loud when I made my final landing and went into beta pitch (thereby shutting off both engines. I have nearly 3000 hours in AC90s. Some things just die hard. As we rolled down the runway a 777 emerged from the murk. The instructor forgot it was there. Being a ski racer it was no problem to slalom around the behemoth. All in a days work. Thanks JL. 
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 06 Mar 2018, 17:53 |
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Joined: 01/31/09 Posts: 5193 Post Likes: +3032 Location: Northern NJ
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That dreaded dual engine failure on rollout.
I don't know how you survived flying the CJ2 - no Beta, no TR's.
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