Well David, Jason said what he said. Just scroll up. I challenged it and he blew a gasket and got all defensive. I don't know why he's being so nasty. Maybe embarrassed, insecure, I don't know.

You don't need to come in and read between the lines and provide a translation into his true intentions.. He's a big boy, and can be held to account for his own words, which are clear and make very strongly stated technical opinion and claim.

Thank you. That's all anyone ever needed to say and this thread would be 10 pages shorter. We all need to go back to math class.

Tyler,

You challenged nothing. You offered absolutely zero information on the subject. You sat on the sidelines and lobbed grenades.

Do you understand how forums work? It's a flow of information. It's the back and forth that leads to final outcome.

I made it very clear that I don't design aircraft for a living. Along with the post you just quoted are 10 other posts of me asking questions and throwing out ideas.

For you to take the position you took is foolish. At no time did I say "I'm an engineer, I do this for a living and this is the answer. You're taking my post out of context. Go quote the rest of the stuff I wrote. Better yet, why don't you go read it... for the first time.

In my opinion, still nobody has come in here and answered the question beyond a shadow of a doubt. As of now, the only difference between a single and a twin of equal horsepower is drag. If that's the case, so be it. I'm not sure I'm buying it but I DON'T KNOW. If I did I wouldn't be discussing it.

Hell Tyler, at least I discuss new stuff around here. Perhaps you should stick to the "Should I buy a Beechcraft"? threads. You're boring.

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I'll accept the wide berth. Thanks for coming out.

Nothing like a Crandall thread, throw in a little Sanderson and things get interesting.

Twin engine aircraft are for folks that want the perceived safety of the second engine, not additional speed. I flew back from Key West last night with 4 of my kids at 11:30 at night, pitch black over the gulf side and I just 'felt' better with two engines running.

I've now flown the PC-12 and the KA 200. Neither are cheap to purchase or operate especially for an owner flown aircraft. Similar vintage KA are close to the PC-12. For some reason the Pilatus has had very little engine issues of any kind. I've not researched the KA engine issues, if any, in depth.

Everything about the Pilatus has really impressed me. I really and truly love my baron, they got that airplane just perfect, but I'll be taking a Pilatus over the King Air.

For when it's just me, it'll be the Cirri and the Tesla

Watch out. I read an article today that said the big manufacturers let Tesla come to market and prove the concept and they don't like what they see. So now they are now going to switch gears and go Hydrogen.

This thread should be a sticky. It's great to see true colors of some members shine through.

Watch out. I read an article today that said the big manufacturers let Tesla come to market and prove the concept and they don't like what they see. So now they are now going to switch gears and go Hydrogen.

I test drove the Tesla S P85+ yesterday and it blew my mind, just like I knew it would. I'm getting one just so I can bury M5's, AMG E630 and Audi S5's s at the red-light. Nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing them eat dust.

Lets hope the race doesn't last longer than a couple of blocks. Bring the Tesla to the track and see how many laps you can make on a single charge at full speed. I betting you don't make five laps. which at PIR (OR) would be about 11 miles. You can't drive your Tesla much past 300 miles at that assumes no mountains. It is only good for local driving at best. The better car and technology is the Ford Fusion Energi. Best of all worlds and works seamlessly. Oh and costs 1/3 the price. And I can drive that car from one end of the country to other if I wanted too.

Easy Adam, I'll assume you are talking twin (biTurbo) E63, not the Single (NA) variant of the mighty AMG. Everyone knows.......


Andy

P.S. I have the single and freakin love it.

Minor addition:
Drag force is proportional to the square of the speed. The power required to offset that drag is proportional to the cube of the speed.

When you're talking about the horsepower ratings of airplanes relating to drag, use the cubic relationships.

What David said was correct, but could be easily mis-applied.

Lets hope the race doesn't last longer than a couple of blocks. Bring the Tesla to the track and see how many laps you can make on a single charge at full speed. I betting you don't make five laps. which at PIR (OR) would be about 11 miles. You can't drive your Tesla much past 300 miles at that assumes no mountains. It is only good for local driving at best. The better car and technology is the Ford Fusion Energi. Best of all worlds and works seamlessly. Oh and costs 1/3 the price. And I can drive that car from one end of the country to other if I wanted too.

My Duke left me stranded once due to a starter vibrator that failed and then I continued to crank it burning up the starter. If I would have simply let off the starter it would have started.

The guy that bought my first Duke has flown it 200 hours without a hiccup.

My point is that there is always a better plane. The Hawker makes a Pilatus look like a 172. A Global Express makes a Hawker look like an Eclipse.

For 90% of the pilots here a Duke would be a dream plane to own. Look at what people own here on BT.