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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 15:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: I had Byerly Aviation do the paint. The window frame is polished and looks fantastic.
I had all post ligths along with interior and exterior lights changed to LED.
Here is a photo of the cargo area I forgot to add. Its huge I am laying flat and I am 6ft 1in! Ha - You can't fly your house but you CAN sleep in your plane ...
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 17:45 |
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Joined: 11/09/13 Posts: 1910 Post Likes: +927 Location: KCMA
Aircraft: Aero Commander 980
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Thanks for the nice comments.
Some good numbers for the commander
Vmc 94kts Rotate 95kts VXSE 97kts
Climb rate 3000+fpm at 130kts, I usually climb out around 160kts giving me a mid 2000fpm climb.
Range 474 gallon capacity. 80 gallons for first hour then 65 gph after that.
Speed 295kts - 305kts Single engine climb rate 1000fpm and OEI climb gradient 500 ft per nm.
Stall speed low to mid 70kt range
Is it for sale? Everything is for sale.
My problem with selling planes is this. The best time to buy a plane from me is after about 5 years. Before the five year time is up I am too attached to it and after five year time frame I get nostalgic about the good times I have had in it.
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 20:54 |
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Joined: 08/03/10 Posts: 1561 Post Likes: +1810 Company: D&M Leasing Houston Location: Katy, TX (KTME)
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Username Protected wrote: Thanks for the nice comments.
Some good numbers for the commander
Vmc 94kts Rotate 95kts VXSE 97kts
Climb rate 3000+fpm at 130kts, I usually climb out around 160kts giving me a mid 2000fpm climb.
Range 474 gallon capacity. 80 gallons for first hour then 65 gph after that.
Speed 295kts - 305kts Single engine climb rate 1000fpm and OEI climb gradient 500 ft per nm.
Stall speed low to mid 70kt range
Is it for sale? Everything is for sale.
My problem with selling planes is this. The best time to buy a plane from me is after about 5 years. Before the five year time is up I am too attached to it and after five year time frame I get nostalgic about the good times I have had in it. What altitudes are you getting the speeds and fuel burn?
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 20:56 |
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Joined: 11/09/13 Posts: 1910 Post Likes: +927 Location: KCMA
Aircraft: Aero Commander 980
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I normally go straight to fl280 or fl270.
That is my normal speed, in colder temps I can get more speed.
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 21:49 |
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What is the reason for the exhaust coming back angled downward in the Commanders instead of straight back like other Garrett aircraft?
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 21:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: What is the reason for the exhaust coming back angled downward in the Commanders instead of straight back like other Garrett aircraft? Erwin, the area right behind engine is taken up by gear storage and gear mechanism, so it wasn't possible to have a straight exhaust like on the MU-2, Conquest or Merlin. And the gear moved over from the last big piston models. So they did an angled exhaust rather than re-designing gear or widening nacelle.
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 21:58 |
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OK, I see. It looks like your gear raises rearward? What is the emergency gear extension system comprised of?
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 22:16 |
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Joined: 08/09/11 Posts: 2070 Post Likes: +2877 Company: Naples Jet Center Location: KAPF KPIA
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Username Protected wrote: What is the reason for the exhaust coming back angled downward in the Commanders instead of straight back like other Garrett aircraft? Erwin, the area right behind engine is taken up by gear storage and gear mechanism, so it wasn't possible to have a straight exhaust like on the MU-2, Conquest or Merlin. And the gear moved over from the last big piston models. So they did an angled exhaust rather than re-designing gear or widening nacelle.
In addition to what Adam said, I'll just add that there's no obvious reason the exhaust doesn't go back a bit more parallel to the chord from the elbow. I suspect they found the thrust line beneficial in some way and/or had another reason to direct the exhaust flow accordingly. Good question.
There really is no emergency gear extension system. Handle up, gear up. Handle down, gear down. In case of hyd failure (3 pumps), there is nitrogen pressure as a "backup" but it's always working and they are no switches, cranks, or messing around. Really a nice system at the end of the day.
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 22:20 |
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Joined: 11/09/13 Posts: 1910 Post Likes: +927 Location: KCMA
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Username Protected wrote: Not Steve's plane but one like it, N840RB. I was coming from KAPA to KAPF. 1,450 nm, 4:20 enroute on 2,260 lbs. with a push. 305-310 KTAS all the way on 500 lbs/hr. Thats a nice one and a fast one. I saw that one when mine was in the shop very similar.
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Post subject: Re: Turbo Commander Posted: 18 May 2016, 22:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: There really is no emergency gear extension system. Handle up, gear up. Handle down, gear down. In case of hyd failure (3 pumps), there is nitrogen pressure as a "backup" but it's always working and they are no switches, cranks, or messing around. Really a nice system at the end of the day. How often has the nitrogen bottle been used, and how often did it do the job? Sounds like you know of very few times it has been used. I'd worry that the reason you need the nitrogen is fluid loss, but the nitrogen would leak out the same way the fluid did. Perhaps the rapid discharge overcomes some amount of leakage to get the gear down. I imagine when you discharge the blow down bottle, it is rather violent. The Conquest has what sounds like basically the same system. Hydraulic (engine driven) with nitrogen backup. I don't of any cases where the nitrogen has been used, although I am sure it has happened. Mike C.
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