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what I don't get it, you fly to mars and land this giant grain silo vertically. Presumably the bottom part of it is all tanks and pumps and such. How do the people and equipment in the upper section get in and out of the thing down to the surface ?


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what I don't get it, you fly to mars and land this giant grain silo vertically. Presumably the bottom part of it is all tanks and pumps and such. How do the people and equipment in the upper section get in and out of the thing down to the surface ?

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Okay, not really. I just made that up.


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I agree.
I think they’ll “get to that later” and we might see that with the grid-fin catch concept.

So many problems to be solved, as more are solved it does things ha

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what I don't get it, you fly to mars and land this giant grain silo vertically. Presumably the bottom part of it is all tanks and pumps and such. How do the people and equipment in the upper section get in and out of the thing down to the surface ?


Gravity is so low, you can just jump


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what I don't get it, you fly to mars and land this giant grain silo vertically. Presumably the bottom part of it is all tanks and pumps and such. How do the people and equipment in the upper section get in and out of the thing down to the surface ?

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Okay, not really. I just made that up.


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How do the people and equipment in the upper section get in and out of the thing down to the surface ?

A winch or external elevator, most likely.

Someone's conception:
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There are other far more serious challenges to going to Mars than this.

One of which is needing a far more compliant and wider base landing gear system for an uncertain surface.

We should first send some robots to build a landing pad and a jetway (rocketway?).

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There are other far more serious challenges to going to Mars than this.

One of which is needing a far more compliant and wider base landing gear system for an uncertain surface.

We should first send some robots to build a landing pad and a jetway (rocketway?).

Mike C.

i think it's all part and parcel of the same question.
Why land a tube vertically ? Why not a different shape ?


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i think it's all part and parcel of the same question.
Why land a tube vertically ? Why not a different shape ?

Because that's compromise between ease of landing/takeoff and simplicity of the entire system? They clearly want one vehicle for the entire operation, no landing module, no separation etc.. The tube shape simplifies the flight portion to the extend that overrides added complexity with ingress/egress.


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Why land a tube vertically ?

So you can use engine power to softly land and then to takeoff.

No other orientation provides that.

Apollo did it that way for those reasons, too.

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Needs to go through Earth's atmosphere with the minimum drag.

Circular cross section is the lightest structure for the volume and pressures.

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Wind blowing pretty good still...
I don't think they've released the straps securing the flippers..

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what I don't get it, you fly to mars and land this giant grain silo vertically. Presumably the bottom part of it is all tanks and pumps and such. How do the people and equipment in the upper section get in and out of the thing down to the surface ?

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Okay, not really. I just made that up.


Boy, I wish I could get one of those...... :)
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