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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 29 Jun 2014, 22:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ray,
You need to fly one. Now, I have not flown one with the extended tips like mine is getting. I was rather unimpressed with the takeoff roll and the "flying manhole cover" of the short tips when power was cut; however, climbing 1000 FPM at 160 indicated was pretty impressive. I think the longer tips will make it a better all around plane.
I too liked the cockpit. You don't sit in the cockpit - you become a part of it. I really liked the control inputs. You simply put pressure on them and don't actually move them much. It feels like a helicopter and I really like that feeling.
If this is my "final" airplane it will make nice transportation from NE Indiana to SW Florida even if fuel goes up even more. I just have to stay out of the ice and that is something that is hard to do where I live. That's how the guy at Performance One described it the day I looked at them. Just didn't have time to go fly that day. May try to go fly one in a couple weeks. Kind of afraid to 'cuz I know I will be hooked.
_________________ Ray Bishop '65 Deb now in Oil country - E06
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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 18:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can THIS airplane make it to St Louis?  Not if an engine quits 
_________________ The kid gets it all. Just plant us in the damn garden, next to the stupid lion.
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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 19:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Glasair is finally going into the paint shop. The plane was test flown today and did great. Fuel is extended and ready for some long x country flights. Wow. You're in my neck of the woods. I've spent many hours in the hangar pictured in your first pic. Have you found Performance One to be a good shop?
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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 21:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: Todd,
Have you discussed LOP with Rob? No I have not. We were running the plane 215 knots true at 8k using 2400 RPM and 23" MP. That was 14.5 GPH ROP. The plane had the short tips on and that was the optimal altitude. The longer tips should yield the same speed at 11-12k using about 13.5 GPH ROP. I truly believe the electronic ignition makes for some serious efficiency. If I can get 13.5 ROP at 12k and cool cylinder head temps I will be happy not running LOP. If it will run smooth LOP that will be a bonus.
_________________ The kid gets it all. Just plant us in the damn garden, next to the stupid lion.
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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 22:02 |
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Can't wait to see the final result after paint.
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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: The G3X touch will incorporate the flight instruments, engine instruments, autopilot, and charts, along with SVT and HITS. It is an incredible piece of equipment. If the GPS was certified for IFR I would dump the 530w as well. I'm not arguing the above point, just asking for education / clarification... I realize that the G3X is not "certified" for IFR, and neither are the Dynon Skyview or the various other experimental glass panels. Some people seem to accept these for IFR flying without a "certified" GPS, and I've heard a couple of "reasonably knowledgeable" people state (rather emphatically) that there is no requirement whatsoever for "certified" avionics (which I assume means TSO'ed) on experimental amateur built aircraft, whether used for VFR or IFR flight. I have a good friend who is building an RV-10 and plans to use the G3X or Dynon Skyview as his sole means of navigation for IFR flight. I've been "suggesting" that he might want to consider a certified IFR GPS/Nav/Com as part of his avionics package. He says (quoting the same "knowledgeable people as above") that it is not required, and he doesn't want to spend the extra money unless it is mandatory... Can anyone here point to definitive FAA-sourced information that clarifies this point? I'd sure hate to lose a friend, either way... Thanks!
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Post subject: Re: Fuel extension in the Glasair III Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 11:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm not arguing the above point, just asking for education / clarification...
I realize that the G3X is not "certified" for IFR, and neither are the Dynon Skyview or the various other experimental glass panels. Some people seem to accept these for IFR flying without a "certified" GPS, and I've heard a couple of "reasonably knowledgeable" people state (rather emphatically) that there is no requirement whatsoever for "certified" avionics (which I assume means TSO'ed) on experimental amateur built aircraft, whether used for VFR or IFR flight.
I have a good friend who is building an RV-10 and plans to use the G3X or Dynon Skyview as his sole means of navigation for IFR flight. I've been "suggesting" that he might want to consider a certified IFR GPS/Nav/Com as part of his avionics package. He says (quoting the same "knowledgeable people as above") that it is not required, and he doesn't want to spend the extra money unless it is mandatory...
Can anyone here point to definitive FAA-sourced information that clarifies this point? I'd sure hate to lose a friend, either way...
Thanks! Try answering this question first. How can you fly an approach with just a G3X? Tell me what approach (just an example) and the sequence of steps you would use. I'm no G3X expert, just an avid follower, but it can't be done.
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