Jason doesn't believe in project airplanes..

Jason doesn't believe in project airplanes..

For sure the controls are heavier as your not flying a Bonanza.
FWIW these planes are flown 90% of the time on the a/p anyway.
Never heard anyone say I dont buy a Citation or KA as the controls are too heavy!

Exactly!,

Ever heard of an "autopilot"? They make them pretty good nowadays. In fact, they now make airplanes that don't require a pilot at all. Lol

The PT-6 engine is orders of magnitude more safer than piston engines, its equivalent to jet aircraft. This article quotes 2 inflight shutdowns for 2 million hours of flight. Incredible. I read somewhere else that single engine turbine-powered airplanes went 12 years without a fatality resulting from an inflight shutdown. You guessed it, that TBM-700 crash in south Florida broke that streak....
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fligh ... -aero.html

Ha ha.

Jason, you have a different paradigm than many of us brutha. The vast majority of BTers fly 30 to 50 year old Bo's that in many cases are pretty near being stock.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just trying to establish a baseline.

But if I found myself in the "Hey, I won the Lottery" situation, I don't know what new airplane I'd buy. I too would seriously consider a "Frankenplane" as you call em. If my memory is correct, Sierra Industries has a Super SII conversion, for the Citation II SP, that gives it a 2,600 mile range, FL 430 and speeds of up to 426 kts.

Toss in the G1000 and you've got a very capable aircraft.

I'd also want a PC12 though.

(guess I'll have to buy 2 lottery tickets. )

Ha ha.

Jason, you have a different paradigm than many of us brutha. The vast majority of BTers fly 30 to 50 year old Bo's that in many cases are pretty near being stock.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just trying to establish a baseline.

But if I found myself in the "Hey, I won the Lottery" situation, I don't know what new airplane I'd buy. I too would seriously consider a "Frankenplane" as you call em. If my memory is correct, Sierra Industries has a Super SII conversion, for the Citation II SP, that gives it a 2,600 mile range, FL 430 and speeds of up to 426 kts.

Toss in the G1000 and you've got a very capable aircraft.

I'd also want a PC12 though.

(guess I'll have to buy 2 lottery tickets. )

The TBM as 1 inflight shutdown in 1 million hours, as for the one in FL if its the one I think it is, it ran out of fuel during a post mx flight. This one doesnt count and there was no fatalities.









The PT-6 engine is orders of magnitude more safer than piston engines, its equivalent to jet aircraft. This article quotes 2 inflight shutdowns for 2 million hours of flight. Incredible. I read somewhere else that single engine turbine-powered airplanes went 12 years without a fatality resulting from an inflight shutdown. You guessed it, that TBM-700 crash in south Florida broke that streak....
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fligh ... -aero.html

Frankenjet... did that word come from frankenwatch?

Frankenstein?

Dean, I think there's a big difference between loving your vintage Bonanza or P-51 Mustang and taking on an old business jet. Don't you agree?

http://www.sijet.com/

The Citation is a very robust airframe and most are basically zero-timed at conversion... The Sierra Conversions are real hotrods that preserve the pleasaant flying characteristics of the Citations, but give them = or > performance of the CJ II+, or III, at a fraction of the acquistion costs...

As for handling, it is a factor to me. Why do people buy sports cars? Is it all an ego thing, or don't they really appreciate the handling of a sports car? That was the main reason I wanted a B-55 instead of an E-55 Baron, the B is lighter and feels sportier than the -E. I appreciate good handling in an airplane, and will sacrifice other attributes for it.

+1, on the B-55 handling.

http://www.sijet.com/

The Citation is a very robust airframe and most are basically zero-timed at conversion... The Sierra Conversions are real hotrods that preserve the pleasaant flying characteristics of the Citations, but give them = or > performance of the CJ II+, or III, at a fraction of the acquistion costs...

As for handling, it is a factor to me. Why do people buy sports cars? Is it all an ego thing, or don't they really appreciate the handling of a sports car? That was the main reason I wanted a B-55 instead of an E-55 Baron, the B is lighter and feels sportier than the -E. I appreciate good handling in an airplane, and will sacrifice other attributes for it.

I've been biting my tongue on a couple of these comments, but Doug finally said what I would like to have said, but much better.

To some . . . flying qualities DO matter.

I like my sports car (M3) and my plane (V35B) because they have visceral feed back . . . they are FUN.

I have a dually diesel 4X4 pickup and I drive it only when I have to, and hopefully that's not too often.

The Citation with REALLY big engines and great flying qualities would be a marvelous acquisition for those that enjoy the art . . .

For those that don;'t care, a dually diesel is OK.