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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24  Posted: 21 May 2013, 11:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: 1,950 nm range
Why do all these single pilot jets fall just short (pun intended) on taking me from CA to HI? That's not a mission worth considering when they design these things?
Very doable! You start in the jet and finish on a trawler (g). Unfortunately, that's a mission that there's not a large market for. Usually a larger plane that carries more for a mission of that length. As you can see, most of these smaller jets look to 1,000NM range or so with IFR reserves to balance against cost. It would have to carry a LOT more fuel for that mission and it's around 7 pounds per gallon (every hour of burn would be nearly equal in weight to the payload).
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 11:57 |
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Sounds promising! Although the range is a bit short...would like coast to coast non-stop. The aft baggage door is a huge bonus as is the short field capability. And we all know that Swiss build quality will be superb.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: I know several Honeywell engineers. When they were developing their IPAD App I offered to put a group of pilots together who I thought could give them a good idea of what works, and what would make it sell.
They knew better.
App released.
App sucks. Honeywell has an App?
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: I know several Honeywell engineers. When they were developing their IPAD App I offered to put a group of pilots together who I thought could give them a good idea of what works, and what would make it sell.
They knew better.
App released.
App sucks. Honeywell has an App?
Right there sums up how crappy it is.
Tim
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: I wonder what the app did?
Do you know that to update the Nav Data and charts on my Honeywell I need to hook the plane up to a GPU, bring everything up to full power and then using a laptop that I cannot use for anything else that runs Windows 7 only I spend 1.5 hours. It's utterly insane.
The same task on the G1000 took 3 minutes with a little data card. It doesn't load on a USB drive? Check into the DL950 data loader...not sure if it works on the newer Honeywell stuff but on my 90's era Honeywell Avionics its pretty painless.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have cupholders and they actually do work. same here 
Yes, but how many cigarette lighters and ash trays do you have?
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, but how many cigarette lighters and ash trays do you have? haha. I know. I'm still always amazed when I see airplanes with cigarette lighters and ash trays.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, but how many cigarette lighters and ash trays do you have? Those always made me smile as I imagined a dude in a suit enjoying a smoke on his way to a business meeting.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 12:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Single Pilot Certified to 45,000' Cargo door Externally serviced lav 1800NM range with 6 PAX 425 knot cruise on 17gph http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/#275ah yes, a brand new reason to start playing the lottery again ! gary
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 13:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, but how many cigarette lighters and ash trays do you have? Those always made me smile as I imagined a dude in a suit enjoying a smoke on his way to a business meeting.
I have two lighters and four ash trays. Can you imagine a five-hour trip with Don Draper and associates?
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24 Posted: 21 May 2013, 13:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have two lighters and four ash trays. Can you imagine a five-hour trip with Don Draper and associates? Then they arrived just in time for their Martini lunch!
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