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Post subject: Re: How NOT to land a P51 Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 14:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well I would guess (not quite old enough to know for sure) that back in 1944, this was just another day in flight training for the 50 hr Kids transitioning to the P51 but giggling "No big deal" after that landing today isn't the first thing that comes to mind for me!  Back in WW2 there were a number of young kids that the very first time they flew the 51 was in combat. I am sure some made it back and landed OK and some did not. WW2 was an amazing time. BTW, back in the 60s I remember unlimited hydroplanes have engine trouble and simply throw the engine away and install a new one right out of the can! You could get all you wanted for almopst nothing. A new 51 was about 1AMU and the engine was about 50 bucks. At one of our local airplane surplus yards the owner had crates and crates of P51 camshafts. He hammered them in the ground for fence posts.
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Post subject: Re: How NOT to land a P51 Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 16:38 |
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In watching the video... I thought he got a prop strike on the first bounce...
FWIW..
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Post subject: Re: How NOT to land a P51 Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 23:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: 1,000,000 Attorneys fees Divorce or manslaughter  Nah, justifiable homicide, tops if he gets a lawyer that can pick a jury.
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Post subject: Re: How NOT to land a P51 Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 23:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone know Lodi well?
Did he have enough remaining runway to salvage the landing by adding a touch of power?
Was the ground loop possibly intentional? To avoid running off the end of the runway?
Doug I think so doug....... there is a crossing runway about the place where he veers to the right.... and then another 1000 feet I'd estimate. Mike
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Post subject: Re: How NOT to land a P51 Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 03:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well I would guess (not quite old enough to know for sure) that back in 1944, this was just another day in flight training for the 50 hr Kids transitioning to the P51 but giggling "No big deal" after that landing today isn't the first thing that comes to mind for me!  She looks like she was already around at the time where it was no big deal.... 
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Post subject: Re: How NOT to land a P51 Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 04:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: No, he wouldn't have had to firewall it, just add a little touch of power and keep the stick back until things settle down a little. Letting the pressure off the elevator after a bad bounce just lets the nose fall and this is what you end up with. That is not a go around. I agree a little power to help with that first bounce would have helped. After watching the video a few times I don't think he actually bounced it on landing. If you watch he pitches up after the mains touch. I bet he was trying to 3 point it. When the mains touched he tried to pin the tail which is correct technique. The problem is that he was a bit fast and the tail was still a few feet from the ground. When he tried to pin the tail he popped the plane back off the ground. He didn't realize the tail was still off the ground. JMO Amen Bro That is what I saw as well
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