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 Post subject: Re: IO720 400hp twin turbo Comanche
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George, I think you may have me confused with Charlie Horton who put a supercharger on a Comanche 400 at one time. I owned a turbo twin Comanche for 21 years and got to know many 400 owners. Another knowledgeable Comanche 400 person is Matt Kurke of http://comanchegear.com/

:oops: By golly you are correct, it's so easy to get you Charlies mixed up.
But based on your choice of aircraft, you do appreciate speed. I once had an Aerostar, marvelous airplane unless you have to change a rear cylinder. Were you active in the ICS? Your name seems so familiar.

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What other airplanes had the IO-720?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_IO-720

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Major applications
PAC Fletcher
Piper Comanche 400
Helio Courier


Applications

IO-720-A1A

Northwest Ranger - factory installation
Piper Comanche 400 - factory installation

IO-720-A1B

Beechcraft 80 - Excalibur and Queen Air conversions
Helio Courier - Helio Courier H-800 factory installation
Pacific Aerospace FU-24-954
Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave - Johnson Aircraft conversion

IO-720-A1BD

Barr

IO-720-B1A

Northwest Ranger C-6 - factory installation

IO-720-B1B

Aero Commander - MR. R.P.M. conversion

IO-720-B1BD

Aero Commander - MR. R.P.M. conversion

IO-720-D1B

Embraer EMB 202 Ipanema - factory installation

IO-720-D1C

Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave - Johnson Aircraft conversion

IO-720-D1CD

Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave - Johnson Aircraft conversion

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My vote for the class of the Comanches is the 260C - that is a fantastic little plane!


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Lest we not forget Gregg's Twin Bonanza "Excalibur". He's got 2 of those beastly engines!
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What other airplanes had the IO-720?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_IO-720

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<Note> No Twin Bo listed. The 720 was an STC.


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They missed one, Jack Riley had a 414 conversion with turbo 720’s. I flew it and hated it.
What a pig.


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I know of a Glasair III with one on it.


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The only weak point with the com 400 was their first generation magnetos...one had to be an expert do do a hot start.... by the way Lycoming’s chief pilot died testing a overhaul in Williamsport...I don’t remember the cause


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If anyone is interested there is a derelict one at my airport.


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They missed one, Jack Riley had a 414 conversion with turbo 720’s. I flew it and hated it.
What a pig.


It seems that most/many engine modifications deliver more issues than benefits. With the IO-720 Lycoming, the one that worked was the Queen Air. I only flew in one once, but there were definite performance gains. There is some commercial operation in the mid-west that pretty much bought them all up and wore them out. They were easy to maintain, long lived, and relatively inexpensive.

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Lest we not forget Gregg's Twin Bonanza "Excalibur". He's got 2 of those beastly engines!

I think Gregg's the one that said cams alone are 15k a pop

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Speaking of IO720 Queen Airs, there is a nice one for sale on Controller now for sale that is under 200k. Looks like a nice plane for a huge family

Gregg's Excalibur is beautiful. I keep trying to convince him to let me fly it, no joy yet. :sad:

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They missed one, Jack Riley had a 414 conversion with turbo 720’s. I flew it and hated it.
What a pig.



Don’t forget the De Havilland Dove with the Riley conversion. Turbo normalized too.


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The twin turbo setup is needed to inflate the 720 cubic inches


I used to fly with a friend in a Rajay 250 Comanche, it used 2 also.
It was fast at 18-20 thousand feet... (until the mags got worn and cross fired at altitude)

I flew the converted Brave 400(removed the failed Tiara), and the factory Brave 375, with IO720s. They had the mags figured out by then, no problem with hot starts.

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They missed one, Jack Riley had a 414 conversion with turbo 720’s. I flew it and hated it.
What a pig.


It seems that most/many engine modifications deliver more issues than benefits. With the IO-720 Lycoming, the one that worked was the Queen Air. I only flew in one once, but there were definite performance gains. There is some commercial operation in the mid-west that pretty much bought them all up and wore them out. They were easy to maintain, long lived, and relatively inexpensive.

Jg



Bemidji Aviation. I rent a hanger in BJI, we see the Queen Airs on the ramp all the time. They have a fleet of them flying freight. My son works there (in the office). I think they contract with UPS...maybe others too. Very active and growing. I think they own the STC for the IO-720 Queen Air conversion.

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It seems that most/many engine modifications deliver more issues than benefits. With the IO-720 Lycoming, the one that worked was the Queen Air. I only flew in one once, but there were definite performance gains. There is some commercial operation in the mid-west that pretty much bought them all up and wore them out. They were easy to maintain, long lived, and relatively inexpensive.

Jg[/quote]


Bemidji Aviation. I rent a hanger in BJI, we see the Queen Airs on the ramp all the time. They have a fleet of them flying freight. My son works there (in the office). I think they contract with UPS...maybe others too. Very active and growing. I think they own the STC for the IO-720 Queen Air conversion.[/quote]

They own all of the Excalibur STCs. They bought most of the Excalibur left over inventory also from my Starman Auction.


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