$400k just to repair a Williams engine. Is it $360 per engine?
Williams might be providing great service, but you are paying for it.

$360 per total both sides. or something close to that. Because we are based in Canada, we pay a small premium over US rates..

Overhauls and repairs are expensive with jets. Period. Williams, Pratt, Honeywell, it doesn't matter. When I had my engine failure, the repair bill was $450k. That's where the engine program saves the day. Like everything in aviation, nothing is cheap, just managed.

When they were new the company I flew for looked at them and years later I flew one for 600 hours. The major problem I saw was with full fuel you had no weight left for passengers with 2 crew. Newer avionics and engines without the TR's probably give you a some more weight for the pax.

Now when I open BT I hope for a new post to this thread... is anyone else like me?

We should start threads for every type. They are always so fascinating. The Bt braintrust always delivers!!

Data point for today's flight for the williams S2. C-FSRX. CYVR - MMMZ (Mazatlan, MX). 1765 nm. 1% longer distance than straight line. ISA +5 at the start of the trip. ISA -8 past Tuscon. very light winds at the beginning. and then light headwind.. 25 knots on the nose crossing the MX border. 4 hours 50 minutes. 4360 # of fuel. TAS varied between 390 and 400 kts. I planned for FL410 but there were some really good TCU's to 450 from Phoenix southbound and ATC approved wrong way direction FL430 for most of the rest of the trip. I loved our baron but it is really REALLY nice to be able to get high and be on top picking the best route through massive TCU's. Took some neat pic's going past the Grand Canyon.. A couple of people have called me with questions on the S2. very happy to share what I know.

I plugged that flight in for our Pratt powered S2 for this morning and it’s 4991 lbs and just over 5 hrs 11 min. at 410 12 it head wind average.

Mike what’s your empty weight we are right about 8700 lbs with the S2 which is about 900 lbs heavier than our straight C550s.

Gary

Does anyone have the last Sierra Catalog? It used to be available a few places online; they've all gone offline. It was widely distributed at one point but now I can't find it in any archives. I'm talking about this catalog:

https://www.aviationpros.com/aircraft/b ... industries

That catalog was a great read! Thanks for posting it.

Gary -

Our S2 is the heaviest of all the ones that we looked at. 9150 lbs. About 300 lbs heavier than the other ones.

The tradeoff is a new Bravo interior with a weight penalty of 200 lbs and a full load of radios including dual FMS, HF with selcal, unilink, sat phone, in-flight entertainment. Likely another 100 lbs.

On the one had, it's me and my toothbrush with full tanks. On the other hand, I still have 5300 # of fuel with 500 lbs of pax and bags. I mostly fly around by myself on business so it's not a limiting factor. And I really really love the quiet Bravo interior.

Data point. Cabo (where it was ISA + 18 all the way up to FL300) back to YVR on Monday. 4 + 42. 4291 lbs.

Darn I was hoping you were significantly lighter than us with ancient Jt15Ds with reverses and all. Generally we can put 700 lbs with full fuel. We were in Scottsdale yesterday +30 or so.

How’s the fishing in Cabo one of my favorite places.

Gary

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... tation-sii

This seems like a pretty great example with lots of engine time left and a super nice interior.