There is that......

Just do it

The vast majority of the positions were sold based on a $1.39M price. You will pay more for this due to options (some of which are not "optional"), a fee for transfer of a position, and inflation escalators. Not sure what year the price is based on.

I'd guess a 2019 delivery is ~$1.7M out the door.

Mike C.

On top of that, I am sure the owner wants to make a profit on the position. I would imagine buying a 2019 position would cost more than ordering a new plane from Cirrus with 2022 delivery.

Is there anything the Cirrus jet will do better than a TBM 850 and up?

Yes, it will leave $2 mill in your bank account!

Yes, it will leave $2 mill in your bank account!

Yes, it will leave $2 mill in your bank account!

I would certainly go down that route, if those were my only two choices. In my book, you can't have enough range. The TBM is a beast at that. But for half the money again, I can get a Commander 1000 that will burn even less and go even further at the same speed, so..

Our “range” is 3 hrs our so.
And you guys are overlooking this one thing.....

The price of the SF50 is constantly ignored for some reason. TBM's are expensive. I don't know how much TBM you get for $2MM but it's not going to be under warranty and it's not going to be "new" at all and it has a propeller like a clown hat.

A new SR22 is $1MM. I know a guy that just had one delivered that cost over $1MM. $1.7MM for a new SF50 is a game changer. It's the pressurized, turbine Bonanza everyone here has been begging for for years.

[quote="Jason Crandall"]


A new SR22 is $1MM. I know a guy that just had one delivered that cost over $1MM. $1.7MM for a new SF50 is a game changer.


Indeed.
It’s not for everyone.
It’s not a business hauler.
It’s not a across the country machine

But, have you sat in that thing??? The panel is awesome. I spent almost an hour in it in Osh. Having 120 hrs in a Cirrus, I bet I could fly that thing in no time at all. Very logical and intuitive amd familiar. Almost 2000hrs behind my mostly Garmin panel doesn’t hurt either. While reasonably intelligent, I don’t learn as easily as I used to....
I’m 6’3” , 250 lbs, Nancy has some arthritis. It doesn’t get much better than that for folks like us. Almost as comfortable as my car. And that is saying a lot.
Usually just the two of us. Once or twice a year the West coast. The rest of the time 300 to 600 miles.
I’m turning 65 next month. How much longer will I be able the fly?
Your perspectives change as you get older, you’ll see. As do your needs and wants.
My needs were met a long time ago. Most definitely in to wants now.

Here is what I don’t know. If you have a plane like that, will your typical trip change, just because you can. We go to Kansas City for the day, or Chicago or Omaha. Does that now become Denver or Dallas or the East coast.

What I don’t want is to fly less. I have several acquaintances who “planed-up”.They now don’t fly as much anymore and certinaly have lost the spontaneity of hey let’s go there today.... I don’t want that.

Explain.... It has the same range and useful as an SR22 and I flew my SR22 for a couple years as a "cross country machine" and a "business hauler". Then I did the same with my A36 for 1000 hours. I'd much rather have been doing those trips in an SF50.

Yes, everyone could use an SF50.

Explain.... It has the same range and useful as an SR22 and I flew my SR22 for a couple years as a "cross country machine" and a "business hauler". Then I did the same with my A36 for 1000 hours. I'd much rather have been doing those trips in an SF50.

Yes, everyone could use an SF50.

I don't think there will be any $1.7 million dollar SF50's sold to people without long term positions. The positions aren't inexpensive to purchase. The last time I looked it would be $2.1 million or more to take delivery of a 2019 model. Certainly the market for positions might have changed but my guess is they are probably more.

The SF50 as has been pointed out offers less capability in many ways than a TBM 850: slower, lower and less range. But the SF50 buyer is typically a serial Cirrus purchaser and they value other things: the superb support of the company, the training Cirrus provides, integrated systems, ergonomics and a new aircraft is important to them as opposed to used. Jason keeps making this last point and he's right. Oh, and it has a parachute. The value of that is real both in terms of safety and emotional comfort, particularly for passengers.

The SF50 will also offer less fatiguing vibration and incredibly important: its a JET.

What some miss when they compare the SF50 to a TBM, Meridian, Citation, Phenom, etc. is a) new vs. used which is important and b) the point of comparison to the SF50 buyer isn't these other airplanes, it's an SR22. In that comparison an SF50 seems incredible.

At it's price it's alone in the market place. There is no other NEW competitor for the money, even a turboprop.

I still think Luc should buy one!