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Scott,

Congrats, looks like a nice plane.
So when say say goof off, what exactly do you mean? I can see how goof off applies in a Cibriata or any other acro capable plane, but how does it apply to a 182? What am I missing?

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Scott,

Congrats, looks like a nice plane.
So when say say goof off, what exactly do you mean? I can see how goof off applies in a Cibriata or any other acro capable plane, but how does it apply to a 182? What am I missing?

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My Bo can takeoff and land relatively short. With just myself and a half tank I need about 550-600 feet to land and 500 feet to take off. The 182 I used to have was 450 feet with the same load. The main thing is the 182 does it about 10 MPH slower thereby needing less real estate in the terminal area so to speak.
Another main thing is I hate fuel injection, can't stand it. Always worried about getting it started when hot. This is simply a nonissue with a carb.

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Just curious Scott, what's the empty weight of this one?

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Empty weight is 1794. I need to get the CG data points so I can add them in to my W+B app on my phone. If anybody has that info send it to me. All the paperwork and manuals are still at the FBO.


Best place to find the W & B limits is on the TCDS. It isn't easy to derive the points from the info in the Cessna owner's manual.

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First flight today of any distance. Looks like the TAS is right at book, about 146 MPH at 11,500. This is without wheel pants as we took those off last week. Wind was howling out of the west today, somewhere around 45-55 MPH. Some mountain wave but very smooth. One issue is the EI UBG-16 engine analyzer has the lowest displayed CHT bar at 300 degrees. All cylinders are below 300 in cruise, where it was between 30-40 degrees F today. So there is no graphical presentation of CHT unless I go into a climb to bring up the CHT's. One thing I have to get used to is looking at the AI and HI prior to takeoff so they can be set, don't have to bother when you have an Aspen. Both times I took off today the HI was way off.

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Heck of a panel for a straight tailer! Is it nose heavy?
That's a perfect bird for your neck of the woods.
Hope to see summer airstrip vids of it.
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One issue is the EI UBG-16 engine analyzer has the lowest displayed CHT bar at 300 degrees. All cylinders are below 300 in cruise, where it was between 30-40 degrees F today. So there is no graphical presentation of CHT unless I go into a climb to bring up the CHT's.


Same for me in the Deb with my JPI EDM 800.

My thoughts on that:

On the minus side, you only get graphical feedback if you download the data.

On the plus side, when a blank bar appears on the scale of the JPI, I think it easier to notice.

Do you have a carb temp gauge?
Have you played with a little carb heat to go LOP?

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Having been weaned on straight-tailed 180's and 182's, I must weigh in: Your airplane exudes class, accentuated by the paint scheme and iconic straight tail. That panel is awesome, and it is obvious that some serious thought and AMU's went into it; you still have additional real estate to the right of the tachometer for more manly steam gauges.
I predict that you will be falling for an Aspen, yet what your panel has, including the A/P, makes for a powerful ally in most IFR settings... joining the localizer at a leisurely pace becomes a pleasure rather than a chore.
"What you said" on carburation: I fly my 180 1+20, land at my ranch strip, drop off supplies, pay the cowboys; start the motor without drama, and fly home.
The baggage extension and FA Dodge seats will be a great addition for the back country.
You will find that on most trips of around 400 NM or less, the difference in air time to your Bonanza will be negligible, yet the difference in cost will be a pleasant surprise. The enjoyment portion is discoverable, and the minimal hassle in its operation an arguable asset.
Best for the New Year... I am sure you will enjoy your addition to the collection.

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Do you have a carb temp gauge?


Yep, right under the transponder. With no carb heat on it stayed at -18 to -20 C.


Have you played with a little carb heat to go LOP?[/quote]

I did not watch the engine monitor to see when the cylinders peaked. I just leaned until it got rough and then added a little to make it smooth again.

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That panel is awesome, and it is obvious that some serious thought and AMU's went into it;


Yep, in 2006 a previous owner who lived in Hemet, CA spent about $65K on that panel.


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I predict that you will be falling for an Aspen, yet what your panel has, including the A/P, makes for a powerful ally in most IFR settings... joining the localizer at a leisurely pace becomes a pleasure rather than a chore.


It is highly unlikely this aircraft will see the inside of a cloud while my friend and I own it. I don't see us keeping the IFR cert up to date.


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What you said" on carburation: I fly my 180 1+20, land at my ranch strip, drop off supplies, pay the cowboys; start the motor without drama, and fly home.


This part about the plane makes me giddy. I hate fuel injection.



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You will find that on most trips of around 400 NM or less, the difference in air time to your Bonanza will be negligible, yet the difference in cost will be a pleasant surprise.



I disagree with this part. At 400 miles the Bo will get there about 55 minutes faster(170 kts vs 125 kts true) and the Bo will burn 6 less gallons on that trip. Based on my current gas prices the 182 makes that trip $38 cheaper as long as the 182 is burning car gas.

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I stand corrected on the cross-country part. Also, any substantial headwind will affect the 182 way more than your Bonanza. I do a little bit better in the 180 with the PPonk conversion and Leading Edge Exhaust: Up to 150 Kt. down low and BTW. But for serious X-C, it's the Baron.
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