And do what? Sit in the FBO? Is that more comfortable than getting the trip over with?

No, I don't love the 6 hour legs but it's a hell of a lot faster than commercial. What are you comparing it to?

I land to get gas. That's it.

Commander isn't going into that hangar more than once I don't think?
There is at least one Mu2 with aux fuel in the aft baggage, but can't recall how much, maybe 40G? Its that Texas painted Mu...

And do what? Sit in the FBO? Is that more comfortable than getting the trip over with?

No, I don't love the 6 hour legs but it's a hell of a lot faster than commercial. What are you comparing it to?

I land to get gas. That's it.

Commander isn't going into that hangar more than once I don't think?
There is at least one Mu2 with aux fuel in the aft baggage, but can't recall how much, maybe 40G? Its that Texas painted Mu...

Actually, most, if not all of the single pilot jets will beat the time, even with a fuel stop.

Premier, Citation V and maybe even the C500 and C550. I don't think any of the turbo-props will beat the time, because even the faster ones are not fast enough to make up for a fuel stop. Although, the Conquest II and Merlin III may do it non-stop.

Feel free to throw you math up there. How many on board? How many bags etc. 1 pilot and 1 PAX on board is not a legit comparison.

Also, even if what you say is true...... By how much do they beat my time with a stop and at what cost? I burned 2300Lbs on this trip. CJ3 would do it non stop also with the same load 2 hours faster but on 3300Lbs.

Literally before we bought the Mu2 we were set on a 690. But to make it fit in a Municipal T-hangar ($275/month) we would have had to lower the flaps and remove the radome each time. Obviously that wasn't reasonable and 5 years later we are still stuck in the same hangar situation which ultimately dictates our purchase decision.

For US, the rest of the specifics of the load and mission were somewhat secondary to getting a good hangar with fuel farm access.

For you if the 1500nm westbound (xx% of the time?) is your dealbreaker you might have a bit more of a problem solving dilemma.

TJ

The info is in that pic I posted. I cruise in the 260's. I had a headwind the whole way. Flew at FL280 burning about 360PPH. Landed with 450Lbs.

The only single pilot planes that will beat it are CJ3, CJ4 and Phenom.

I am not going to waste my time running profiles. I am just pointing out the error in your comment. The only single pilot planes that will beat it are CJ3, CJ4 and Phenom.

And I would gladly pay the extra $400 in fuel to land 2 hours sooner.

The departure airports don't match in your screenshots.

As Jason and I have chatted on, we'd both like to step up to a jet for the speed and efficiency.......for me the two hours definitely count. My current milk run is KFXE to KTEX which is 1600NM. I can do it Eastbound with no stop almost 90% of the time, it's the westbound run that gets me a little short on go go juice. My alternate is KMTJ but as noted earlier I'd like to land with 500lbs to keep it comfortable for myself unless it's really VFR............

The real reason that the PC12's hold their value is there ability to keep up with the jets, low operating costs, big payload and all field accessibility as well as being truly docile and pilot friendly.

Now if the CJ3/4 or the Phenom 300 made the KFXE - KCRQ non-stop I'd jump today........

For this mission I think that the Conquest II is the way to go.

The departure airports don't match in your screenshots.

very true, the atlanta approach controllers will give vectors and altitudes to VFR pilots all day long, better to just tune and listen and get the squawk clear of their shelf

I am not going to waste my time running profiles. I am just pointing out the error in your comment. The only single pilot planes that will beat it are CJ3, CJ4 and Phenom.

And I would gladly pay the extra $400 in fuel to land 2 hours sooner.

So would I. That's why I'm shopping CJ3, CJ4 and Phenom 300.

Not paying the extra to make a stop.