BeechTalk - BT - Closed on another Twin Cessna (CJ) yesterday

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 17:06

Website says $385K

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 17:08

Thanks - that sounds like a pretty good deal...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 17:48

It is 390 (-) the incentives (+) the options. On the options side you can install them at a Gatmin authorized dealer as an alternative to Cessna as their rates can be heavy handed.

I think it is a good deal, but that's relative to whoever is judging what "good deal" means.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 18:01

Username Protected wrote:

I'm hesitant to offer congrats to you because last time someone said on here that they bought a jet, some of my life got wasted believing their BS.

So consider this a provisional congratulatory statement, subject to a probationary period and photograph review before final issuance. :thumbup:

Tony,

I'm with you there! (Still wondered what the great excitement was for whoever it was)

But, Alex, congrats....whether your getting your dream CJ or your dream c150, it all about the love of flight and the mission. Have a blast, Alex!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 18:32

Username Protected wrote:

I don't know what reasonably is, but I believe the retrofit is around $400k. The Alpine Edition (G3000) in a CJ2+ is real? Have they delivered one yet?

It is real and flying. I have been in it. Cockpit is identical to a M2. I don't know how many they have done.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 18:36

Username Protected wrote:

On the others, instead of FADEC you get an N1 computation with the engine instruments on the MFD. And if you read the threads on the Citation Pilots Forum, there are occasional issues with the FADEC whereas bringing the power up manually to the target N1 is not that big of an issue.

I have flown both FADEC and non-FADEC Williams powered Citations and will take the FADECs any day. You will have more problems with the paddles on your engines then I have with my FADECs.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 20:11

Username Protected wrote:

On the others, instead of FADEC you get an N1 computation with the engine instruments on the MFD. And if you read the threads on the Citation Pilots Forum, there are occasional issues with the FADEC whereas bringing the power up manually to the target N1 is not that big of an issue.

I have flown both FADEC and non-FADEC Williams powered Citations and will take the FADECs any day. You will have more problems with the paddles on your engines then I have with my FADECs.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2015, 20:19

Congratulations Alex!

Ask Mark about his jet story regarding relationships. It's hilarious.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Apr 2015, 06:08

Username Protected wrote:

Well, Allen, you're probably right.... But, it is a compromise I'll have to live with - and just be careful not to exceed the N1 limits.

Yep it's a tough gig but someone's got to do it...

Andrew

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Apr 2015, 08:40

Congratulations Alex! :clap:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2015, 18:03

Well.... Now the fun part begins!

Out with the old instrument panel, old EFIS and radios, and in comes the G1000, choose paint colors, and interior materials. It's going to be a couple of months of patience!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2015, 18:04

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2015, 18:05

And it was also fun showing up at the Citation Service Center in Wichita (the darn thing is almost half a mile long!) in this....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2015, 18:32

Username Protected wrote:

A CJ with a G1000 retrofit sounds like a fantastic idea, if the G1000 retrofit is reasonably priced...

I don't know what reasonably is, but I believe the retrofit is around $400k. The Alpine Edition (G3000) in a CJ2+ is real? Have they delivered one yet?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2015, 19:16

Username Protected wrote:

Holy crap. MY wallet said ouch and I'm not even looking at jets...

That said, HUGE congrats Alex. That's about as exciting as it gets. How long are you going to have to wait for her? Can you speak a bit about your plans for training / transition?

2-3 month wait - but that's ok. As Aristotle said: patience is bitter, but the fruit is sweet.

For training, the option I am leaning towards is Simcom in Orlando. I checked with FSI in San Antonio (my preference), but they are booked up when I have time to attend. Simcom has a Class D simulator and I can take my TR check ride on it. For SP ops, the insurance company is asking me to fly with our company pilot for 15 hours, although I will probably do more like 50-100 as I get comfortable with the speeds/structure/procedures/flows, etc. Our company pilot is an ex-airline captain with 19K hours under his belt in all kinds of jets - big and small.