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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 07 Jul 2024, 19:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: I’m 6’2 my seat is permanently all the way back 6'4" before gravity's inexorable toll. I've even got a custom re-welded seat, a chopped down low-rider, I bought off another star driver. Was banging my brains into the headliner in turbulence.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 07 Jul 2024, 20:35 |
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Joined: 12/02/15 Posts: 415 Post Likes: +200 Location: KBLM KAPF
Aircraft: Aerostar600A
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Username Protected wrote: I’m 6’2 my seat is permanently all the way back 6'4" before gravity's inexorable toll. I've even got a custom re-welded seat, a chopped down low-rider, I bought off another star driver. Was banging my brains into the headliner in turbulence. I am jealous….you guys don’t have to worry when the seat inadvertently slides back
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 16:11 |
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Joined: 02/09/09 Posts: 6512 Post Likes: +3225 Company: RNP Aviation Services Location: Owosso, MI (KRNP)
Aircraft: 1969 Bonanza V35A
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone flying a Century IV? My 601P has one and it’s pretty well unusable. Having just done an autopilot upgrade on my Cessna 180, I hate to go through the time and $$ to do that to the Aerostar. I mainly want it for level cruise flight more than anything. I sent a couple components from it to Autopilots Central but it needs a couple more components repaired. I should be under $8k getting it all working perfectly. Just curious how well they work when they’re working perfectly, I’ve never flown another airplane with a Century IV. Would some sort of GPSS converter be of significant value (GTN650) or does the NAV function work ok? I had Bob Weber get my Century IV working when he worked for a big avionics shop. I wasn't impressed with AC on another airplane and have heard other issues also. They did thousands of dollars of work overhauling components on a C-421C that I managed and Bob took one look at a video and said "That's a $35 switch causing the problem" and was right... I think he's a BT member also. https://webairconsulting.com/
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 17:44 |
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Joined: 02/09/14 Posts: 256 Post Likes: +115
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Username Protected wrote: https://www.simulator.com/courses_taxonomy/piper-aerostar/ Talked to SIMCOM at Oshkosh. They no longer offer AEST training. Baron, Cessna 300/400, and Navajo yes, Aerostar no.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 22:29 |
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Joined: 02/09/09 Posts: 6512 Post Likes: +3225 Company: RNP Aviation Services Location: Owosso, MI (KRNP)
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Username Protected wrote: https://www.simulator.com/courses_taxonomy/piper-aerostar/ I went to Orlando for C-441 recurrent about two years ago. I wasn't impressed. I learned as much about a King Air and a Cheyenne as I did the 441. The Sim constantly broke. When we sat down in the sim for the first time, the instructor had no plan as to what we were going to do. I will say the manuals, QRH, etc. they provide are top notch but they all came from FSI when they bought the program and sim from them. There is no way that I'd spend that amount of money to go to Simcom for a piston airplane unless I had money to burn.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostar Recurrent Training Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 23:38 |
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Joined: 06/17/14 Posts: 6008 Post Likes: +2744 Location: KJYO
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Username Protected wrote: Is there a Part 142 training center with a worthwhile Aerostar refresher?
I realize nobody has an AEST sim but some emergencies I'd rather practice in a sim than my airplane.
Barring a 142 shop, who's your favorite refresher instructor? I am not sure he is still doing it but Carter Wright of Go Airplane. However, the Go Airplane website, which I am not posting, appears to have been domain hijacked by a company in India and that link/redirect is unsafe. I did my Aerostar initial with him a few years back and really enjoyed it. https://www.avweb.com/press-releases/go ... e-upgrade/(Avweb removed the goairplane website link, fortunately)
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 06:26 |
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Joined: 01/24/19 Posts: 1001 Post Likes: +253 Company: Bullard Aviation Services, Inc Location: Ormond Beach, FL (KOMN)
Aircraft: 1978 Bonanza A36
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Username Protected wrote: https://www.simulator.com/courses_taxonomy/piper-aerostar/ Talked to SIMCOM at Oshkosh. They no longer offer AEST training. Baron, Cessna 300/400, and Navajo yes, Aerostar no.
I know an instructor st SIMCOM Orlando, well, he used to be an instructor there, so about a year and a half ago I reached out to them, through him, to inquire about getting some Baron training in the sim and was told that I didn’t meet their minimum qualifications. I have owned probably six Barons over the years, both 55’s and 58’s, one 95-B55 right now and had watched one of the famous YouTubers at SIMCOM and thought it might be interesting, informative and fun to go there and fly the Baron simulator. I guess I need a YouTube channel (and an instrument rating) to qualify. I have been enjoying learning my Aerostar 601P with a couple of local instructor / friends. It is due out of annual by the weekend so hopefully I can pick up, where I left off, 5 weeks ago!
Frank
_________________ Bullard Aviation Services, Inc. www.BullardAviation.com
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 15:10 |
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My advice go find a good aerostar instructor, ( the Aerostar owners Association has a good list)
purchase a day of instruction in your own aircraft and you will be far ahead compared to using one of the services that does not have any simulator that is anything like the Aerostar
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 09 Aug 2024, 15:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: My advice go find a good aerostar instructor, ( the Aerostar owners Association has a good list)
purchase a day of instruction in your own aircraft and you will be far ahead compared to using one of the services that does not have any simulator that is anything like the Aerostar I certainly agree that for someone transitioning to the AEST, the more time spent in the actual aircraft, the better. AOA still lists Lester Kyle and I know he retired years ago so I'm not impressed with their vetting process. That's why I was asking for current recommendations. There's some emergency stuff I'd rather practice in a sim even if it doesn't fly like an AEST. And after all that time and money I'd like the ICC & BFR which is why the Part 142. There are plenty of competent sim instructors who aren't current in the AEST.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 09 Aug 2024, 20:48 |
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Joined: 02/09/09 Posts: 6512 Post Likes: +3225 Company: RNP Aviation Services Location: Owosso, MI (KRNP)
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Username Protected wrote: AOA still lists Lester Kyle and I know he retired years ago so I'm not impressed with their vetting process. That's why I was asking for current recommendations.
Is Ron Cox still around? I remember having lunch with him and Lester during my initial in Vero Beach. Ron wrote or updated the AOA Systems manual. I was happy with him for initial and several recurrent events.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 09 Aug 2024, 22:16 |
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Anyone know where I can download a reference copy of the flight manual for a 600? I'd like to read up on these and get a better idea of some of the numbers, procedures, and systems.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 10 Aug 2024, 08:21 |
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Joined: 08/09/11 Posts: 2038 Post Likes: +2822 Company: Naples Jet Center Location: KAPF KPIA
Aircraft: EMB500 AC95 AEST
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Username Protected wrote: Talked to SIMCOM at Oshkosh. They no longer offer AEST training. Baron, Cessna 300/400, and Navajo yes, Aerostar no. I know an instructor st SIMCOM Orlando, well, he used to be an instructor there, so about a year and a half ago I reached out to them, through him, to inquire about getting some Baron training in the sim and was told that I didn’t meet their minimum qualifications. I have owned probably six Barons over the years, both 55’s and 58’s, one 95-B55 right now and had watched one of the famous YouTubers at SIMCOM and thought it might be interesting, informative and fun to go there and fly the Baron simulator. I guess I need a YouTube channel (and an instrument rating) to qualify. I have been enjoying learning my Aerostar 601P with a couple of local instructor / friends. It is due out of annual by the weekend so hopefully I can pick up, where I left off, 5 weeks ago! Frank
A 601P with no IR? Isn’t that kinda like a French tank with no reverse gear?
Compared to all the work you’re putting into the plane, it seems like the rating would transform your flying safety and utility.
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