I love new airplanes coming to market.

Nobody would buy it.

That is kind of interesting. I understand that you can get a pretty stripped down SR22 for under 600K, but they are all coming out optioned around 900K. All the PA46's that I have seen moving have pretty much all the reasonable options installed. People buying new planes don't seem to want the budget models. FWIW.

As far as the TBM7 being superior to an M600.... I guess that is in the eye of the beholder. The M600 has superior handling and forgiving flight characteristics, is going to climb and cruise better in icing and IMC since it doesn't have to open the IS which robs the 700 of a great deal of performance, has much superior avionics as well as full envelope protection, has no peculiar low speed handling characteristics, from what I understand very benign stall without the TBM manners of wanting to flip on its back in a power on stall, 2 inch wider cabin, much more refined and modern interior, 5 year spinner to tail airframe and 7 year engine warranty, 50% lower operating costs, simpler user interface.... But yeah, bring back the old TBM700, I don't think Piper would sweat that

Among us airplane nerds these discussions are interesting and unending. But real buyers spending real money make the decisions. Some then feel they have to justify the decision they made by attempting to defend their choice as superior against all others. Well, of course, your choice is superior based on your analysis. That doesn't make it necessarily a better plane.

Marc and Chuck can go back and forth forever. The facts are that each plane offers things the other does not. Which of those things is more important is relative to the buyer who actually writes the check.

I could argue any of these planes six ways from Sunday. And have. The problem is, if you want to fly, you eventually have to quit arguing, settle and write the check. I hope to write mine next week.

Kind if funny when you compare it to how we feel about cars I really like my car, but don't find myself justifying why I like it more than the next guys SUV. also funny how someone would rarely buy a giant SUV with expansive fuel tanks and a horribly inefficient but powerful engine to commute to work when a lesser sedan with more appropriate range, power and a practical number of seats could be had for a fraction of the cost of that giant 12 seat road ripping SUV. Something there, just don't know what it is.

I demo'd a Mustang the other day, and it sure looks great on paper, and flies like the fine machine that it is, but not sure I would ever really feel comfortable flying somewhere and getting out of it by myself. Just seems like somewhere in there, is an uncomfortable amount of waste

I don't Chuck. I think if you're a pilot you're pretty committed to maximizing your carbon footprint, even considering LOP. After that its all just a matter of degree.

I drove an F250 for 20 years because I liked it even though the bed never had anything in it but air - same for all but the driver's seat for that matter. Now I drive a huge car because the little ones don't have a door as big as an F250. Fortunately, its a diesel with good fuel economy but I really could care less about that.

My point is: none of this makes any sense at all. Especially to the other 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999 % of the world population who have no idea what we're talking about and are pretty sure we don't either.

This is a picture I sent to my wife this afternoon along with a text: See honey, I did need a truck:

Yeah I get it. Wonder if Santa Monica would be under so much pressure to close if all those giant window shaking jets with one or 2 people onboard minimized their footprint a little better. At least they will allow biofuel and non-leaded avgas there now. The carbon footprint types already are drawing up plans.... I hate windmills

Tony C,

What are you going to buy?

Tim

Tony is a smart man, im sure he will do the right choice with his money.

Something SWEET!!

I'm about to write a check too but Tony's is going to make mine look like I'm buying an R/C model...

That rules out a plane.

This is an impressive plane which seems much more appealing than its predecessors and the jetprops.

I get wanting a new plane but, as the Flight Global article mentions, it is continually a bit shocking to me how little advancement has been made in Turboprops since the 70s...

The performance figures for the M600 are not meaningfully different from what I get out of my 1974 690A Turbo Commander. I have a bit more fuel flow, along with a bunch more useful load and cabin space. I'm happy to be out of sync, I suppose, though... Saves me from paying $3mm for a shiny new aircraft which wouldn't carry what I need and would be less useful to me than than my unappreciated old bird.

Just curious, do we have a Pirep on a new M600 yet? Sounded like a couple of people were considering buying one.