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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II  Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 12:08 |
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I heard that the early Citations had had both forward and aft facing radar. The aft radar was to spot thunderstorms sneaking up from behind. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 12:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: I heard that the early Citations had had both forward and aft facing radar. The aft radar was to spot thunderstorms sneaking up from behind. ^^^^ 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 13:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: I heard that the early Citations had had both forward and aft facing radar. The aft radar was to spot thunderstorms sneaking up from behind. The way I heard it is “why do Citations have wire mesh covering the back of the motors?” To prevent bird strikes from behind! Trust me with the headwinds I have seen the last two says it is not out of the question. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 13:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Trust me with the headwinds I have seen the last two says it is not out of the question. This is when you appreciate a jet that can get up to FL450 or higher.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: Trust me with the headwinds I have seen the last two says it is not out of the question. This is when you appreciate a jet that can get up to FL450 or higher.
So for all you guys who fly up in the Moronosphere at FL 450, how many of you put the mask on? 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: So for all you guys who fly up in the Moronosphere at FL 450, how many of you put the mask on? Mask is required SP above FL350. Nothing special about 450 in the regs.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:05 |
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Quote: how many of you put the mask on? The most violated FAR. (and not the least reason we mainly stayed at 400/410)
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: how many of you put the mask on? The most violated FAR. (and not the least reason we mainly stayed at 400/410) For sure, including air carrier crews. But, I will say that checking the mask during the cockpit preflight is followed pretty strictly. A word of caution. On the cockpit wall of the plane I was flying for the carrier is the O2 shutoff valve. This gets turned off if the plane is done for the day. A check airman engineer was giving our flight engineer a line check. We all tested our masks and got a good flow check. But, it was residual pressure in the line, the flight engineer forgot to turn on the valve. The check airman busted him on the spot, and the check airman had to fly his position for that flight. So, during preflight it's a good idea to make sure the valve on the O2 bottle is turned on. I'm sure you all do.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: So for all you guys who fly up in the Moronosphere at FL 450, how many of you put the mask on? Mask is required SP above FL350. Nothing special about 450 in the regs.
Yes, but you didn't answer the question. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, but you didn't answer the question. You can find many YouTube videos of pilots above FL350 without a mask if you want to identify pilots who do that. I haven't heard of any enforcement actions against any of them.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, but you didn't answer the question. You can find many YouTube videos of pilots above FL350 without a mask if you want to identify pilots who do that. I haven't heard of any enforcement actions against any of them.
You won't find a you tube video of me above FL 350 not wearing a mask. Not wearing a mask is one thing, flaunting it is another.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Dec 2017, 14:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark is definitely very cool  Been thinking...too much? 
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