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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio  Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 08:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Jason,
Are you sure you can:
1. Wait for a slot in a P&I shop to open up....it might be a while....
2. Wait the 2-3 months to complete the project and be planeless?
Buy a jet. A nice jet...
Peace,
Don Paint shop has a slot for right after I have the wing removal done. 2-3 months? I was hoping for 6 weeks.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 08:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: Found your color scheme Jason.
Unveiled at the LA car show this week. I like the grey.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 09:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: Found your color scheme Jason.
Unveiled at the LA car show this week. I like the grey.
Yes, I thought you would.
Classic, classy.
This one may be matte finish. All the rage in Europe, I don’t care for it.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 09:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, I thought you would.
Classic, classy.
This one may be matte finish. All the rage in Europe, I don’t care for it. I think Matte is a bad call for resale.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 10:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, I thought you would.
Classic, classy.
This one may be matte finish. All the rage in Europe, I don’t care for it. I think Matte is a bad call for resale.
Right.
Plus, it absorbs, hides the lines.
I cringe when I see one.
Some design team spent years designing pretty lines, then you go and hide them.
Tsk tsk tsk.
It’s like changing wheels on Mercedes where a team designs the optimum wheel shape, weight and center of gravity to maximize the suspension’s and brakes’ effectiveness. Only to ruin it in 5 minutes.
Downtown Moscow full of matte black Mercedes G class, S class and 7 series Beemers. All owned and driven by the Russian mob.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 2008 Pilatus PC12NG Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 19:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: It takes a week. I think it costs about $10K. Had mine done in April. $19,000. Epps. Nothing unexpected. Parts $7,000. Labor $12,000. PC-12 is great. Also, expensive.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Chump change to pimp it out from what you would have in a jet.  That's some first class rationalization right there! Think of all the money he'll save! Rationalize: Rational Lies Nobody does it better than us airplane owners!
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: If you are keeping this airplane then pimp it out on paint and interior. Make it so you cannot look away from it on the ramp. Chump change to pimp it out from what you would have in a jet. No doubt. I've done the math and that's exactly what I'll do..... if I do it. Pimp it out, keep it another few years. See what the market is doing then.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: If you are keeping this airplane then pimp it out on paint and interior. Make it so you cannot look away from it on the ramp. Chump change to pimp it out from what you would have in a jet. No doubt. I've done the math and that's exactly what I'll do..... if I do it. Pimp it out, keep it another few years. See what the market is doing then.
How many of your passengers have said, "You know what, this airplane sucks, later dude." ...I bet none, pimp the thing out and fly on.
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 21:55 |
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Thinking about you selling the boat also...is it possible you need an entirely different itch scratched? The Pilatus and the boat seem to have reached maturity with you. Some sort of boredom/midlife crisis? Not trolling; serious question. Maybe some sort of amateur boat or car racing as a hobby? Buy a hot rod aerobatic plane? Maybe a turbine warbird? No offense meant if I'm off base. I'm getting the feeling you're looking for a hill to climb. 
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 22:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: So the new issue of flying hit my mailbox today with pc24 on the cover. Saw one on the ramp a couple weeks ago at KAPA. First one I've seen in the wild...
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Post subject: Re: Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG) - considering optio Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 22:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: So the new issue of flying hit my mailbox today with pc24 on the cover.
The full fuel payload is only 750lbs. Maybe I did the math wrong but I don’t think that thing is going Atl to ASE with a full load of people, high speed cruise and reserves to go missed at aspen and get back to Denver.
FltPlan is showing around 5500# of fuel required for that trip so that would leave you with 1250# of available payload. That shouldn’t be a problem with Jason’s pax. The CJ4 has a larger full fuel payload than the PC24 but a lot smaller cabin and longer takeoff and contaminated runway requirements.
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