THANK YOU....YES!

That's a lie too.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/oKfFlu9X6hE[/youtube]

Preferably on the beech in St. Barts... Might need a heads up JC prior to posting/reviewing. I'll take my BP medicine a few hours early.

I know the what, how and with who about his training. Let's just say that his training was not what he said it was. I won't dig deeper in a public forum.
The first point was a 100% lie though.

All this should be in a separate thread, I do apologize the thread drift.
The original point I was trying to make(with relatively poor success) was, that a PC12 is not a plane where you fill the seats, bring their bags and top off he tanks. The fuel tanks are absurdly large, and the use for full tanks is for a pretty specific mission. Another extreme - Just the pilot with one guy sitting up front, you can't fill up the tanks unless you add close to 200lbs of weight in the back. I've spent a lot of time playing tetris with bags, seat allocations and fuel to stay within legal CG and MTOW.

It's a great plane, but it's worth running some numbers to see the real capability.

This past season we had 8 in the Caribbean. Right now we operate 21 PC12's, split between the Caribbean, the Northeast and Texas.

I know the what, how and with who about his training. Let's just say that his training was not what he said it was. I won't dig deeper in a public forum.
The first point was a 100% lie though.

All this should be in a separate thread, I do apologize the thread drift.
The original point I was trying to make(with relatively poor success) was, that a PC12 is not a plane where you fill the seats, bring their bags and top off he tanks. The fuel tanks are absurdly large, and the use for full tanks is for a pretty specific mission. Another extreme - Just the pilot with one guy sitting up front, you can't fill up the tanks unless you add close to 200lbs of weight in the back. I've spent a lot of time playing tetris with bags, seat allocations and fuel to stay within legal CG and MTOW.

It's a great plane, but it's worth running some numbers to see the real capability.

If the complex problem you speak of is flying airplanes from point A to B and I’ve been successfully doing it a lot for the last 11 years (4000 hours) then how is my version of flying an “oversimplification”. I’m actually doing all these missions as opposed to guys like you and Mike C who Google the flight or airport and “pose” yourselves as experts on the subject.

You and Mike C talk the talk but you don’t walk the walk.

Ummm, Jason....
Your picture kinda proves ur a fibber

the combined total clothes on your passengers must weigh at least 10 lbs

Good job demonstrating how you don't attack people personally.

No true expert needs to do that.

Someday you may learn that pushing others down doesn't elevate yourself.

Mike C.

You’re the one that starts it every time Ciholas. I thought you were gonna block me?

The truth is.... you can’t handle the truth.

If the complex problem you speak of is flying airplanes from point A to B and I’ve been successfully doing it a lot for the last 11 years (4000 hours) then how is my version of flying an “oversimplification”. I’m actually doing all these missions as opposed to guys like you and Mike C who Google the flight or airport and “pose” yourselves as experts on the subject.

You and Mike C talk the talk but you don’t walk the walk.

I think the Jeffs should create a "boxing ring" section for members to go Duke it out when there are spirited disagreements that drift away from the OP's thread subject. I'd never get in the ring, but I'd be a spectator!

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This might be a stretch, but does anyone have any insight to where cessna is intending to take the CJ (525) lineup in the future?

It's a good airplane, but showing signs of age. It's not hard to point to the Phenom 300 being superior in many aspects.

New design? CJ5?

Just dreaming out loud.