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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 04 Jul 2017, 13:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: Had an odd thing happen. KSDL to KMYF and back yesterday. Precipitation was shown on NEXRAD around GBN. Just light. Clear as a bell. I figured that it could be dust. I trip back an hour later there were a cluster of 45,000 storms in nearly the same spot. Coincidence? Or did NEXRAD see something building that wasn't noticeable to the naked eye? Had a similar event. Last month I was flying across eastern Washington, ATC advises light precip ahead, it's totally clear outside. A few weeks later, same route, same place, still totally clear, I get the same advisory, there's still no sign of precip. It's slow on the radio so I mention the report from a few week prior. Controller acknowledges it's a frequent occurrence in that area. I had my stratus running, but didn't think to see what ADSB was showing, and I didn't look back to see if anything blossomed there later. For those curious where, it was between PSC and LTJ near the northeast edge of The Dalles wind turbine farms.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 04 Jul 2017, 14:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Had an odd thing happen. KSDL to KMYF and back yesterday. Precipitation was shown on NEXRAD around GBN. Just light. Clear as a bell. I figured that it could be dust. I trip back an hour later there were a cluster of 45,000 storms in nearly the same spot. Coincidence? Or did NEXRAD see something building that wasn't noticeable to the naked eye? Ask this in the IFR section and see what Scott D says.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 04 Jul 2017, 15:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: Had an odd thing happen. KSDL to KMYF and back yesterday. Precipitation was shown on NEXRAD around GBN. Just light. Clear as a bell. I figured that it could be dust. I trip back an hour later there were a cluster of 45,000 storms in nearly the same spot. Coincidence? Or did NEXRAD see something building that wasn't noticeable to the naked eye? Ask this in the IFR section and see what Scott D says.
Done, good idea.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 05 Jul 2017, 10:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: For those curious where, it was between PSC and LTJ near the northeast edge of The Dalles wind turbine farms. You know, out near Enid, OK, there seems to be something painted out there a lot, even in severe clear......and there are wind farms out that way near the painted area....could the radar be painting the turbines?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 05 Jul 2017, 11:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Had an odd thing happen. KSDL to KMYF and back yesterday. Precipitation was shown on NEXRAD around GBN. Just light. Clear as a bell. I figured that it could be dust. I trip back an hour later there were a cluster of 45,000 storms in nearly the same spot. Coincidence? Or did NEXRAD see something building that wasn't noticeable to the naked eye? Had a similar event. Last month I was flying across eastern Washington, ATC advises light precip ahead, it's totally clear outside. A few weeks later, same route, same place, still totally clear, I get the same advisory, there's still no sign of precip. It's slow on the radio so I mention the report from a few week prior. Controller acknowledges it's a frequent occurrence in that area. I had my stratus running, but didn't think to see what ADSB was showing, and I didn't look back to see if anything blossomed there later. For those curious where, it was between PSC and LTJ near the northeast edge of The Dalles wind turbine farms.
I've had similar on occasion in FL, but not very often. Suspect some kind of glitch in the system.
(I need to check in more on this thread to see what up in the Citation world.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 05 Jul 2017, 11:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: For those curious where, it was between PSC and LTJ near the northeast edge of The Dalles wind turbine farms. You know, out near Enid, OK, there seems to be something painted out there a lot, even in severe clear......and there are wind farms out that way near the painted area....could the radar be painting the turbines?
This was a serious conundrum a few years back for the coders in the weather radar world. Static ground targets could be easily coded out of the picture. The variable returns of the wind turbines, due to changing alignment and rotational speeds, were more difficult. I don't know what was the ultimate solution, if any was ever devised.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 18:24 |
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Looks like Miami weather rather than San Diego.
Must be this global warming thing.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 08 Jul 2017, 13:40 |
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The concept of flow in conjunction with flying and in particular checklists is occasionally discussed. Read this earlier today and thought it was descriptive re these topics.
According to the Hungarian psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi who coined the phrase, "flow is completely focused motivation. It is a single-minded immersion and represents perhaps the ultimate experience in harnessing the emotions in the service of performing and learning. In flow, the emotions are not just contained and channeled, but positive, energized, and aligned with the task at hand"
How good is your flow? I bet being in the flow as described is a good antidote to helmet fire.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 08 Jul 2017, 18:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: The concept of flow in conjunction with flying and in particular checklists is occasionally discussed. Read this earlier today and thought it was descriptive re these topics.
According to the Hungarian psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi who coined the phrase, "flow is completely focused motivation. It is a single-minded immersion and represents perhaps the ultimate experience in harnessing the emotions in the service of performing and learning. In flow, the emotions are not just contained and channeled, but positive, energized, and aligned with the task at hand"
How good is your flow? I bet being in the flow as described is a good antidote to helmet fire. How long did it take you to type that name in? My iPad's spell check would have just taken over after a while a think. Good stuff. Flows are the way to go, ha Ken up by check.ists
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 18:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: The concept of flow in conjunction with flying and in particular checklists is occasionally discussed. Read this earlier today and thought it was descriptive re these topics.
According to the Hungarian psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi who coined the phrase, "flow is completely focused motivation. It is a single-minded immersion and represents perhaps the ultimate experience in harnessing the emotions in the service of performing and learning. In flow, the emotions are not just contained and channeled, but positive, energized, and aligned with the task at hand"
How good is your flow? I bet being in the flow as described is a good antidote to helmet fire. How long did it take you to type that name in? My iPad's spell check would have just taken over after a while a think. Good stuff. Flows are the way to go, ha Ken up by check.ists
Lots of research has shown that running a scan flow then a checklist is very effective because it's like running the checklist twice.
There are times when running a checklist as a read-do is important; i.e. when "sequential dependency" is a factor. A "Power-Up Safety Check" is one example; when powering up the airplane could lead to injury or damage if items are not completed in the proper order. Mostly a factor for airplanes with hydraulic systems.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 23:58 |
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This is what happens when you see the lead in lights at 200 when ceiling is reported 100@ 1/2. Figured the miss but saw lead ins at 200
12000 foot home Drome. Nailed it.
Text book. [youtube]https://youtu.be/fFh1PnllZYg[/youtube]
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