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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 11:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm shopping Barons. Not because I think they're safer but because it leaves me with less chance of killing someone on the ground. Jason - buying a twin to minimize the risks of flying is probably left to the great "single vs twin" debate, but I would submit that you are already doing more than a lot of pilots do to mitigate risk. From what I have read about you over the years here at BT you fly a nearly new airplane, maintain the airplane to a very high standard at a factory Beech shop, and complete annual training at Flight Safety. Whether you fly a Cub or a Citation IMO there are really only a few practical elements within your control to protect yourself and others: 1) maintain the airplane to high standards 2) train to a high level of proficiency, maintain that proficiency, and respect your limits 3) buy as much insurance as you can reasonably afford or obtain It seems to me you do all three. Isn't that about all you can do?
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 11:10 |
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Joined: 01/29/08 Posts: 26338 Post Likes: +13085 Location: Walterboro, SC. KRBW
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Username Protected wrote: I'm shopping Barons. Not because I think they're safer but because it leaves me with less chance of killing someone on the ground. Jason - buying a twin to minimize the risks of flying is probably left to the great "single vs twin" debate, but I would submit that you are already doing more than a lot of pilots do to mitigate risk. From what I have read about you over the years here at BT you fly a nearly new airplane, maintain the airplane to a very high standard at a factory Beech shop, and complete annual training at Flight Safety. Whether you fly a Cub or a Citation IMO there are really only a few practical elements within your control to protect yourself and others: 1) maintain the airplane to high standards 2) train to a high level of proficiency, maintain that proficiency, and respect your limits 3) buy as much insurance as you can reasonably afford or obtain It seems to me you do all three. Isn't that about all you can do?
Yes, and that's why I do them. Thanks for reading what I write.
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 11:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm shopping Barons. Not because I think they're safer but because it leaves me with less chance of killing someone on the ground. Jason - buying a twin to minimize the risks of flying is probably left to the great "single vs twin" debate, but I would submit that you are already doing more than a lot of pilots do to mitigate risk. From what I have read about you over the years here at BT you fly a nearly new airplane, maintain the airplane to a very high standard at a factory Beech shop, and complete annual training at Flight Safety. Whether you fly a Cub or a Citation IMO there are really only a few practical elements within your control to protect yourself and others: 1) maintain the airplane to high standards 2) train to a high level of proficiency, maintain that proficiency, and respect your limits 3) buy as much insurance as you can reasonably afford or obtain It seems to me you do all three. Isn't that about all you can do?
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: I don't ride motorcycles. It's an "un-necessary" risk. I do. And it's worth it. It makes me wonder if Orville and Wilbur would have made it (or even been prevented from trying!) in today's risk averse, uber-litigious world. Long live the risk takers! Many things in life worth doing require risks be taken!  Attachment: Jonestown Dec 20 2009 (Medium).jpg
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: I was referring to crotch rockets and Harley's. Bikes that'll get me hit by other cars.
I ride dirt mikes. My bad. Jason, I am not re-entering the debate here, but will make one friendly comment. I treat people frequently who were injured (or killed...) via dirt-bike accidents, and people who were accidentally hit by someone on a dirt bike. Dirt bike less likely to be hit by a car? Yes, as they are often "off-road"... Less likely for you or someone else to be injured? No. Let's be careful out there. 
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:38 |
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Ross, Bingo. Nice to know there are some thinking clearly here.
The thing that threw me the biggest curve is the mind set that moving up to a Baron would aleviate anxiety or lower the risk of killing an innocent bystander. There is a lack of knowledge present here that doesnt make him a bad guy or pilot, it make him a very dangerous one. First off, there are no innocent bystanders. You get out of bed in the morning and youve bought your ticket and you take your chances in this life. If this had been a car driving down the freeway and a wheel flew off and you lost control, went off the road, center punched a house and took out a family are you a killer? I dont think so. Should you be charged and made to defend yourself in a court? If anyone answered yes you need to go over to the OTHER side of the room with the other guys there wearing those tall pointy hats. Dunce ? If Jason needs to rethink his need to fly for these reasons then he needs to rethink his need to drive a car. Or walk outside. Or eat in a restaurant. Ill bet more people died choking on a piece of steak last year then were killed by falling airplanes. Perspective people!!! PERSPECTIVE!!
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ross, Bingo. Nice to know there are some thinking clearly here.
The thing that threw me the biggest curve is the mind set that moving up to a Baron would aleviate anxiety or lower the risk of killing an innocent bystander. There is a lack of knowledge present here that doesnt make him a bad guy or pilot, it make him a very dangerous one. First off, there are no innocent bystanders. You get out of bed in the morning and youve bought your ticket and you take your chances in this life. If this had been a car driving down the freeway and a wheel flew off and you lost control, went off the road, center punched a house and took out a family are you a killer? I dont think so. Should you be charged and made to defend yourself in a court? If anyone answered yes you need to go over to the OTHER side of the room with the other guys there wearing those tall pointy hats. Dunce ? If Jason needs to rethink his need to fly for these reasons then he needs to rethink his need to drive a car. Or walk outside. Or eat in a restaurant. Ill bet more people died choking on a piece of steak last year then were killed by falling airplanes. Perspective people!!! PERSPECTIVE!! You're not reading the thread. Don't worry though, you're not the only one.
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:45 |
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A little prayer never hurt anyone either.... Let'r rip... 
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:47 |
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I have a street bike too. My kids and family know (and understand) - flying and motorcycling are things I absolutely love to do. If something goes terribly wrong and I lose my life then so be it. I'd rather enjoy my life to the fullest than live in fear of losing it. My time here is short. Too much of that is spent working, doing chores, paying bills, blah, blah, blah. I work hard so I play hard! Life is short - enjoy it while you can! 
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ross, Bingo. Nice to know there are some thinking clearly here.
The thing that threw me the biggest curve is the mind set that moving up to a Baron would aleviate anxiety or lower the risk of killing an innocent bystander. There is a lack of knowledge present here that doesnt make him a bad guy or pilot, it make him a very dangerous one. First off, there are no innocent bystanders. You get out of bed in the morning and youve bought your ticket and you take your chances in this life. If this had been a car driving down the freeway and a wheel flew off and you lost control, went off the road, center punched a house and took out a family are you a killer? I dont think so. Should you be charged and made to defend yourself in a court? If anyone answered yes you need to go over to the OTHER side of the room with the other guys there wearing those tall pointy hats. Dunce ? If Jason needs to rethink his need to fly for these reasons then he needs to rethink his need to drive a car. Or walk outside. Or eat in a restaurant. Ill bet more people died choking on a piece of steak last year then were killed by falling airplanes. Perspective people!!! PERSPECTIVE!! You're not reading the thread. Don't worry though, you're not the only one.
Im reading it all right....so are you....But m not sure your listening......
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Post subject: Re: Turbine Lancair prop comes off Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 14:25 |
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