You need a new agent.

All insurance rep referrals accepted. Please PM and I will reach out.

Hopefully, it isn't a case of "it's not you, it's me"

Aerostar search renewed. Giddy up...

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Agreed. A $19K quote is not an Aerostar problem. That's an insurance agent problem.

Speaking of money, I'm not going to say anything to your wife, Josef, but you could have bought two tricked out 600s for what you have invested in Brand B. Did I mention eye-popping Brand B prices?

For a "typical" 600 equipped with A/C, color radar, known ice, and dual everything: 4,060 empty. 5,500 max. 165 useable. 200kts @ 30 GPH. Ted Smith was a genius.

Aerostar insurance is definitely going up especially if you are 75 or over as I found. I am paying about $7000 now for 1 million smooth 300K hull It really depends on your total time and twin time. I have been through two cycles on insurance, and we are in a more expensive time right now.

but get training by a good guy and use a broker experienced in insuring Aerostars and you should be able to get it. as your time in type grows it will come down.

also Insurance is not the most expensive part of owing a pressurized, turbocharged, deiced, high performance twin. get a quote for a duke or 421 and see what you are quoted.

maybe age helps me (30) but I originally bought a higher time 600, flew it with liability for a year and about 75hrs. Traded off the 600 for a 601P that needed some work, flew it for 75hrs as it was... I really like the 601P and put some real money into it, I ended up insuring it last year at 350K hull 1M smooth through london risk. Premium is $6400 and they require bi-annual training for me because of the pressurization. I only have about 250hrs of twin time. I do also have an AS350B3 insured with london risk as well so maybe that helped?

You can't beat the bang for the buck you get out of a 600. 600's average 400lbs. to 700lbs. lighter than the "P" models and they handle like one that weighs 400lbs. to 700lbs. lighter. They are a joy to fly with pushrod torque tube response. Response is like right there right now. No delay... Nothing with two props handles like an Aerostar.

The efficacy of that cover and the methods for removing them have been hotly debated on the Aerostar forums. Lol.

Don't get me started.

A man's got to know his own limitations....and his wife's.

We've been married for 35 years and she was happy for me to get a P2 Baron and who likes to go flying with me. Not gonna roll those dice again.






I think you’re underestimating the value of your relationship. You are the PIC. Wives are smart and any reasonable wife knows you need two piston twins to almost guarantee dispatch. Problem solved.

If she really wants to go cross country, she knows, or will learn, it has to be pressurized and fast. Therefore, she will support the twins and the turbine step up. Hopefully at the same time as you have communicated the value of maximum uptime, right?

Just sayin.’

$24,300 for the wing extensions, Tom. And another $28,000 for the winglets.

I won't say that they don't look sharp. But in decades of ownership I've never had to scratch a flight because there was 200 more pounds on the ramp than I could stuff in the airplane.

Yes, you do get a boost in gas mileage / efficiency with winglets. But it would take several lifetimes and most of the eternal hereafter to get those things to pay off financially. I missed my big chance when we didn't grab a pair wingtips off a junked 601 and apply for a 337. Those days are long gone...

I hear the biggest help from extensions and winglets is the increased performance hot and high 600's do not like going high.

But that's the whole point of a 600. If you're going to routinely fly in the teens or low flight levels, get a P model. They come standard with the extended wings so it's half the cost to add winglets

I've had the 600 up to FL180 a few times. 17,500 to be exact since I use a canula. It's a useful capability on the homeward leg after a trip to the west coast. But being based in the northeast, I get along along just fine flying below FL120. And most of the time below FL100. If you want to fly higher all the time then go buy a pressurized Aerostar to begin with rather than cobbling the 600 into something it's not.