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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50  Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 15:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes, IFR or on flight-following with a squawk assigned via the national airspace system. So local IFR, blocked numbers, local VFR won't show up. Those factors are going to affect 'small planes' more than anything from a King Air on up. I get flight following on most every flight, with a squawk code, and they never show up on Flightaware. But if I file IFR and don't pick up a clearance and fly VFR with flight following, it may show up (but sometimes not). Vince
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 16:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: I get flight following on most every flight, with a squawk code, and they never show up on Flightaware. But if I file IFR and don't pick up a clearance and fly VFR with flight following, it may show up (but sometimes not). FF only shows up if the controller pulls a code from the national system and basically enters an IFR flight plan. If a tracon controller just assigns one of 'his' reserved codes, it doesn't show up. If I ask for FF for a trip that crosses center boundaries e.g. DC to Charleston and stay at 10500/11500 I show up just like an IFR flight.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 16:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: The SF50 is going to be a competitor with the PA46 and many of the smaller turboprops. I guess so since it is such a lame jet that a piston single is real competition. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 16:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: FF only shows up if the controller pulls a code from the national system and basically enters an IFR flight plan. If a tracon controller just assigns one of 'his' reserved codes, it doesn't show up. If I ask for FF for a trip that crosses center boundaries e.g. DC to Charleston and stay at 10500/11500 I show up just like an IFR flight. Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering why some showed up and others did not. Vince
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 16:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: You're still comparing an Eclipse that costs more than a million $$ than the SF50.
Sure it would be great if the SF50 can go higher. Maybe it will. But if it doesn't and that's what you want, you can pony up another mil for the Eclipse. Like I have said before, Cessna and other sales reps are waiting for upgrades from the SF50. The smart ones will quickly flip their slightly used SF50 for a slightly more used Mustang or Eclipse or Phenom 100 while the backlog is high.
I disagree Allen. Please check Controller :
CJ3 Total Time 2,289 landing in 1689 since new
CJ2 + Airframe 732.1 Total Time 554 Landings since new,
CJ2 + Airframe Time: 1,302 Hours Landing: 1,092,
CJ 2+ Airframe: 873 Hours / 610 Landings ......
I think a lot of pilots from expensive CJ will move to SF 50 , because Cirrus will fit his missions. And also before you move your body and your family on FL410 please check level of radiation there .  
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 17:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: And also before you move your body and your family on FL410 please check level of radiation there . Really not an issue for the casual flyers. I don't glow in the dark yet or set off radiation detectors.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Allen, also please check Dr.Tony Phillips flights http://news.spaceweather.com/2015/07/Thanks for your concern about my long term health. I will try to fly from the back of the plane in the future. To bring this back on topic, you should share this with Cirrus SF50 marketing. Your SF50 at FL250 is protecting you from radiation those who are flying high and fast above you are being exposed to. 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ha
First I've heard of the radiation thing. Humans have been flying high for a long time. Anyone come down with radiation poisoning because of it? One flight on the Concord would have meant certain death if this were true.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ha
First I've heard of the radiation thing. Humans have been flying high for a long time. Anyone come down with radiation poisoning because of it? Some high time airline pilots believe it caused their cancers. Big difference in exposure between an airline pilot flying for 30,000 hours in their career and a casual GA pilot with maybe 10% of those hours in the FL's. Military high altitude pilots wear radiation monitors to track their exposure.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 19:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: Allen, also please check Dr.Tony Phillips flights http://news.spaceweather.com/2015/07/Thanks for your concern about my long term health. I will try to fly from the back of the plane in the future. To bring this back on topic, you should share this with Cirrus SF50 marketing. Your SF50 at FL250 is protecting you from radiation those who are flying high and fast above you are being exposed to.
You welcome Allen , i just do not understand only one thing , people do not drink, not smoke , regularly go to the gym, after all this people paying millions of dollars to move his body in a high radiation level because fuel efficiency . Happy New Years
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 19:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: Ha
First I've heard of the radiation thing. Humans have been flying high for a long time. Anyone come down with radiation poisoning because of it? Some high time airline pilots believe it caused their cancers. Big difference in exposure between an airline pilot flying for 30,000 hours in their career and a casual GA pilot with maybe 10% of those hours in the FL's. Military high altitude pilots wear radiation monitors to track their exposure.
Polar flights is where you take a good radiation bath.
Whether radiation below 100mSv/yr is bad or or good for you Is a question that cannot be answered scientifically. The answer is usually a reflection of political beliefs.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 19:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: You welcome Allen , i just do not understand only one thing , people do not drink, not smoke , regularly go to the gym, after all this people paying millions of dollars to move his body in a high radiation level because fuel efficiency . Happy New Years We all have to choose our vice that will kill us.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 00:10 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Okay, so we found the SF50 sweet spot: few people, short range, slow speed, low altitude.
It is the Cessna 150 of jets.
Mike C.
Finally you get it! The 150 is probably one of the best pilot makers there ever was!
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