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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 17:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: DeltaHawk is further along and has funding to get through TC. Not sure what they have publicly announced, but expect the obvious STCs. I think we've been hearing "Next year" from the DeltaHawk guys for about 20 years now. But I'm sure this time they really mean it.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 10:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Matching the power, weight, safety and reliability of a gas engine with a diesel is not going to be easy or cheap... If your FWF diesel package including computers turbos etc. costs more and weighs more than other options with the same power output, you won’t sell many. This gets into basic market forces. Given no other motivation, the engine that provides the best value is going to be the engine of choice. The only way to move that needle is by artificially influencing the value by doing something like mandating a different fuel type, or discontinuing production of 100LL. Or you could change the value proposition by producing an alternate engine option that performs substantially better at a similar price, or performs better for the same cost or less. Otherwise what's the incentive to change? The bottom line is that nobody is going to buy a Diesel aircraft engine until it either costs less than what they have, or performs much better at a reasonable premium, or someone forces them to buy it.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 14:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: DeltaHawk is further along and has funding to get through TC. Not sure what they have publicly announced, but expect the obvious STCs. I think we've been hearing "Next year" from the DeltaHawk guys for about 20 years now. But I'm sure this time they really mean it.
They're different guys as of about 6 years ago, at which point the new majority owners took the company from a few guys keeping the lights on and a prop dyno on a trailer in the parking lot to the proper engineering firm with multiple state of the art test cells that it is today. It will be certified. I'm a cynic but this group has one thing all other efforts lacked, money. If it were me I would probably have rebranded. Every time I bring it up people (rightfully) view it as vaporware, but in this case it actually isn't. I hope they share more about the details of the design, it's really a fascinating path they have been on the last few years.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 22 Aug 2020, 09:16 |
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From comments on the latest video: Attachment: B888048A-A83A-46B7-9B91-6F81FD7EE75E.jpeg [ Video Link] I think I’m going to win my $10 wager. It sure sounds like Peter is going to fly it himself. 
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 22 Aug 2020, 09:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: From comments on the latest video: Attachment: B888048A-A83A-46B7-9B91-6F81FD7EE75E.jpeg [ Video Link] I think I’m going to win my $10 wager. It sure sounds like Peter is going to fly it himself.  That's what I read as well. If he doesn't do it, I'd make a substantial wager it won't ever happen. I guess he wasn't willing to split the deposits with WASABI?
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 22 Aug 2020, 18:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: If the airplane checked out great and nobody was worried about it flying, it would be risky for someone in Peter’s situation to perform the test flight. The farther from that ideal you get, the more you need a highly skilled test pilot to keep it from becoming a disaster. The goal of highly trained well disciplined test pilots is to make sure that a flight never happens where their exceptional skill is required.
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