BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Aug 2013, 21:13

Marc,

How much was the bottom line on the g600 install in your TBM?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Aug 2013, 21:49

About $90k with one GTN 750. I kept one 530w and moved the other into the C185.

Username Protected wrote:

Marc,

How much was the bottom line on the g600 install in your TBM?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Aug 2013, 22:36

[quote="Jason Talley"]Va is the speed where the aircraft is unbreakable, in that the airfoil will stall before it places excessive load (over 3.8G) on the airframe. quote]

unless the gust force exceeds the 15 or 30 fps criteria.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Aug 2013, 22:39

Username Protected wrote:

Va is the speed where the aircraft is unbreakable, in that the airfoil will stall before it places excessive load (over 3.8G) on the airframe. quote]

unless the gust force exceeds the 15 or 30 fps criteria.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 07:53

Username Protected wrote:

Marc,

How much was the bottom line on the g600 install in your TBM?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 08:19

So.....why didn't ya just go straight to the PC-12? :scratch:

Username Protected wrote:

Your right, there is nothing wrong with the EFIS 40. I was planning to fly mine for a few years then it started acting up and I didnt want to spend money on it so I did the G600 upgrade and a GTN 750, kept one 530w and its really nice. You dont need dual G600 in the TBM.
You guys can argue all day about the higher price and maintenance of a TBM but at the end of the day there is no other turboprop that as the safety, range, speed, fuel efficiency and payload of a TBM.
I did the exercise 4 years ago, flew the .P210 SE, Turbine Bo, Navajo, Malibu /Mirage, Jetprop, Meridian and convinced myself that a Baron would work. Bought a Baron 58 didnt do what I wanted. Sold it and bought a TBM 700 C2.
Never looked back.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 08:47

Too slow, too big and too expensive and it wont fit in my hangar.
I could use more than 6 seats maybe on 2-3 trips per year, not worth it.
If you think a TBM is expensive, try to maintain an older PC12.

Username Protected wrote:

Your right, there is nothing wrong with the EFIS 40. I was planning to fly mine for a few years then it started acting up and I didnt want to spend money on it so I did the G600 upgrade and a GTN 750, kept one 530w and its really nice. You dont need dual G600 in the TBM.
You guys can argue all day about the higher price and maintenance of a TBM but at the end of the day there is no other turboprop that as the safety, range, speed, fuel efficiency and payload of a TBM.
I did the exercise 4 years ago, flew the .P210 SE, Turbine Bo, Navajo, Malibu /Mirage, Jetprop, Meridian and convinced myself that a Baron would work. Bought a Baron 58 didnt do what I wanted. Sold it and bought a TBM 700 C2.
Never looked back.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 09:03

Too slow? I'm 277 true. How fast is your TBM?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 09:15

Username Protected wrote:

Personally I'd rather have a pair of 530W than the new GTN750's. I haven't really heard too good of things about the GTN's, not even from my local avionics shop.

Had the 530 for many years, love the 750 even more. I can enter a 800nm ifr flight plan with airways in about 30 seconds. That would take about five minutes with the 530 since the flight plan has about 60 waypoints. Very easy box to use.
Kevin

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 09:18

285, but you have an NG.
The older PC12 that I could afford are 245 kts?

Username Protected wrote:

Too slow? I'm 277 true. How fast is your TBM?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2013, 09:20

Username Protected wrote:

Your right, there is nothing wrong with the EFIS 40. I was planning to fly mine for a few years then it started acting up and I didnt want to spend money on it so I did the G600 upgrade and a GTN 750, kept one 530w and its really nice. You dont need dual G600 in the TBM.
You guys can argue all day about the higher price and maintenance of a TBM but at the end of the day there is no other turboprop that as the safety, range, speed, fuel efficiency and payload of a TBM.
I did the exercise 4 years ago, flew the .P210 SE, Turbine Bo, Navajo, Malibu /Mirage, Jetprop, Meridian and convinced myself that a Baron would work. Bought a Baron 58 didnt do what I wanted. Sold it and bought a TBM 700 C2.
Never looked back.

I'm with Marc here. I absolutely love my TP Bo, however if I could have afforded it I would have gone straight to the TBM. I didn't consider a Meridian because I know a few people that used to fly them, one was my instructor, and they said that it wouldn't be a good plane for my mission amongst other things. The Bo doesn't exactly fit my mission every time but it does a really good job for a lot less money. I'm saving up for a TBM some day. My brother has a PC-12 NG and it is an amazing airplane, but it's more plane than I would need for 99% of my flights.