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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think a plane will fly further with a CPA than an Attorney, it depends! But what if you are both? Max range and you can sue someone when you arrive 
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 14:00 |
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Are these numbers in the ballpark for the V?
Hrs per year: 250 Avg fuel $: 3.50 Total fuel gallons: 45,000 Annual fuel: $157,500 Airframe Maint: $100,000 Engine & APU: $90,000 Misc Crew: $40,000 Training: $17,000 Hangar: $24,000 Insurance: $10,000 Miscellaneous: $10,000 Total: $448,500 Per hr: $1794
Seems too high/too low? What's missing
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 05:10 |
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For the low time (under 150 hours a year) user, that time between inspections can be about doubled with Ed Bacon's program if it meets conditions. So, as with anything, it depends  . Still, factor in how much that plane would be new: if you have to replace with factory parts and how important dispatch reliability is.
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 23:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: Are these numbers in the ballpark for the V?
Hrs per year: 250 Avg fuel $: 3.50 Total fuel gallons: 45,000 Annual fuel: $157,500 Airframe Maint: $100,000 Engine & APU: $90,000 Misc Crew: $40,000 Training: $17,000 Hangar: $24,000 Insurance: $10,000 Miscellaneous: $10,000 Total: $448,500 Per hr: $1794
Seems too high/too low? What's missing If your estimates are based on an average leg length of an 1 hour the fuel usage numbers are low. An average fuel burn with leg Lengths of .9 hour are 220 gallons/hour. Your numbers are based in 180 gallons per hour which would require very long stage lengths. I'll be glad to send you several years of actual fuel burn data. PM me! Aubie
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 08:42 |
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Mark, I know the guy that flew that thing for years. PM me you get serious about it.
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: Found this V browsing on Controller. Love the panel. Real jets don't use boots.... Not even on the horizontal stab
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: Real jets don't use boots....
Not even on the horizontal stab So the Citation SII is a "real" jet? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: Real jets don't use boots....
Not even on the horizontal stab So the Citation SII is a "real" jet? Mike C.
Not quite...An SII is like a citation 560 with the anti ice on! The 560 also has boots!
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Post subject: Re: Purchasing a Citation V Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Not quite...An SII is like a citation 560 with the anti ice on! Okay, so an SII upgraded with Williams? No boots, ample performance. Mike C.
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