Pilatus does Akron Ohio to MYSM in 4:25 non stop on 2000Lbs of fuel. Make it back home to AKR non stop too.

That leaves almost 2 hours of reserve fuel with 8 "friends" on board and bags.

I love Akron, this were my family and friends are and we have a lovely home in the state park 15 minutes from the office and airport but you can't go marlin and wahoo fishing in Akron.

Why do we have planes but to go somewhere, San Sal is a great place but too much of a good thing is just that. We have been fishing in the islands for over forty years.

You know we can go round and round about planes just like ten years ago with the single vs twin threads.

The C550 can and does do San Sal direct quite easily but we stop in West Palm to visit our office and pick up fishing tackle and a couple guys to crank in fish.

No worries buddy I am not dissing on your PC12 that's probably the greatest plane that ever was just like Bonanza. There are 19 C550's currently flying so we aren't the only one left with one.

Gary

Pretty impressive stuff. To stay more on topic, will the PC-24 do this both ways as well? and how long and how much fuel? I believe Pilatus with just the -12 and the -24 make all other Biz airplanes below a Challenger obsolete.

I'm a fisherman too. Keep my boat in Miami and was just in Exuma spearing.

I'm not dissing Akron. But if you're saving 48 hours a year flying a C550 over a PC12 then you're not spending much time in Akron. You must be flying 1000 hours a year.

PC24 will do it with ease. It's the largest, fastest, longest range, most payload SP jet ever built.

Just checked, there are 160 Cessna 172s flying right now on Flightaware.

What does that tell you?

That counting unblocked aircraft flying on Flightaware is a really terrible way to judge which planes are better.

It also says slow airplanes show up in more numbers.

A lot more jets are blocked from tracking.

Mike C.

Besides the SJ30.

Mach 0.83, 486 knots, range 2500 nm, ceiling FL490.

Also, CJ4 is a touch more range than a PC-24, and only 2 knots slower.

Mike C.

Besides the SJ30.

Mach 0.83, 486 knots, range 2500 nm, ceiling FL490.

Also, CJ4 is a touch more range than a PC-24, and only 2 knots slower.

Mike C.

PC12's aren't blocked? I'm the only PC12 owner I know who's plane isn't blocked.

Besides the SJ30.

Mach 0.83, 486 knots, range 2500 nm, ceiling FL490.

Also, CJ4 is a touch more range than a PC-24, and only 2 knots slower.

Mike C.

Back pedal.

More of them exist (8) than PC-24s at the moment, so while there aren't many, it isn't vaporware.

Mike C.

Back pedal.

More of them exist (8) than PC-24s at the moment, so while there aren't many, it isn't vaporware.

Mike C.

While that's neat, the vast majority of jet owners don't need to land at short grass strips and unload pianos.

There will obviously be some who make use of that capability, but just like PC-12s which can land on grass, the vast majority are going to land on long paved runways their entire service life.

The PC-24 is a well executed airplane, but the game isn't really changed by it very much. It is still fly people between good paved runways for the most part.

Mike C.

Mike, respect and value your opinion. I'm 6'3". The P300 is too small for me .......my knees are literally banging against the instrument panel with the seat all the way back. Same for the CJ3.......they're tight. They both have a step down isle..........the PC24 has a flat floor. The PC24 is a bigger airplane inside......by a large margin.......it's way bigger inside.

The PC24 has better short field advantage than those two airplanes even with the POH not being totally inked in. Whilst most PC12 guys may not take their airplane into 'short strips' I'm routinely in strips of 2,500 feet or less. The Bahamas runways are not easy on airplanes. They have coral in the landing strip and even a long strip like MYEH is curvy beyond comfort. It's like low profile speed bumps all the way down the runway.

The PC24 does not have the absolute range of other jets and I disagree with Jason that it's the best range/payload airplane out there. What I believe that Pilatus has done here is build a BIG airplane for it's market niche and made many of the features more robust and stout. They've thought through the landing gear, the braking, the everything, although I still wished they'd gone with Garmin and not Honeywell, and I believe that their airplane is superior to it's competitors. And that's hull #1.

The range/payload meets my requirements and I believe the airplane will appreciate. Whilst Cessna and Embraer may disagree the build quality on this airplane is better than theirs........this is based on my eyeballs reviewing finish quality, size of bolts/doors/seats/etc......

This airplane is a winner........which is nice to see. More competitive the airplane market is, the better IMHO.........

I'm also a fan of the Eclipse and am pulling for Alan to get all the resources he needs to get it in a kick ass spot.

you sure about that chisel chest......

stop being absolutest.........you need to relax man and forget about Baker's Bay...........think Lobster Key.......