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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 May 2020, 16:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: No kidding? I can't even recall his name now. It's easy to find- there is only one thread you have to search.
True! I should have thought of that.
Found it....last visited in November.....the withdrawal would kill me if I went that long.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 18 May 2020, 14:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: So has anyone heard anything the last 2 months? I mean I know there's other things going on in the world, but I'm out at the hangar, as are a lot of other people. Awfully quiet over there. Seems he heard you... [youtube]https://youtu.be/K0hXM05og80[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 18 May 2020, 14:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: So has anyone heard anything the last 2 months? I mean I know there's other things going on in the world, but I'm out at the hangar, as are a lot of other people. Awfully quiet over there. Seems he heard you... [youtube]https://youtu.be/K0hXM05og80[/youtube]
I stopped two minutes in. Starting the plane, then getting out to remove the tow? This guy obviously is not thinking about safety or how things fail; and likely will not have a good outcome as a result. That one is very basic safety consideration. If you have never been around planes, and are building one from scratch, you better be considering failure modes.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 14:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: I can’t imagine what it takes to get comfortable getting out of a plane that running. na·ive·té /ˌnäˌēvəˈtā,näˈēv(ə)ˌtā/ noun noun: naivety; noun: naïvety lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 19:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seems he heard you... [youtube]https://youtu.be/K0hXM05og80[/youtube] I stopped two minutes in. Starting the plane, then getting out to remove the tow? This guy obviously is not thinking about safety or how things fail; and likely will not have a good outcome as a result. That one is very basic safety consideration. If you have never been around planes, and are building one from scratch, you better be considering failure modes. Tim
He implicitly trusts his designs almost no matter what. You don’t get out of a running plane if you don’t 100% trust your own home made brake design etc. Now if that AC just happened to be on and kick the RPMs up a few hundred who knows. But he doesn’t think like that.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 20:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: Further in he describes how he fixed the door so it can be opened more easily with one hand so the test pilot can open it in flight while maintaining control with the other hand. This raised my eyebrows twice. First I doubt that he has any idea what the aerodynamic forces will be holding that door shut but it could be considerable given the shape of the cockpit. Second, I don't see any practical way to egress with a chute without getting hit by the wing and probably the spinning prop. If the test pilot manages to accept this challenge, I would love to know where he buys his underwear... They must be custom made.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 21:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: Just realized they are a mere 79nm away from me. Very tempting to take a hop over there and take a look. Wanna become the test pilot? 
Um............. I’ll fly the photo ship/chase plane
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 22:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: Just realized they are a mere 79nm away from me. Very tempting to take a hop over there and take a look. 38 miles for me. Let’s set up a Beechtalk look see ! I spoke with him one day while over flying. He was doing high speed taxi testing. I told him we all (me and who ever) were pulling for him. That day he was mostly getting in the way of folks.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 22:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Um............. I’ll fly the photo ship/chase plane Wishful thinking... You may have to circle a bit over the airport, with a good telephoto lens. That bird is made to taxi.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 19 May 2020, 23:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Further in he describes how he fixed the door so it can be opened more easily with one hand so the test pilot can open it in flight while maintaining control with the other hand. This raised my eyebrows twice. First I doubt that he has any idea what the aerodynamic forces will be holding that door shut but it could be considerable given the shape of the cockpit. Second, I don't see any practical way to egress with a chute without getting hit by the wing and probably the spinning prop. He assumed that the gas shock would open the door just like it does on the ground. I think my eyes rolled a full 180 to the back of my head when he said that one. Remember, this is an experimental plane designed by a guy who didn’t understand the concept of balancing control surfaces and doesn’t understand that airflow will have an impact on the forces needed to open a door. If the door is openable in whatever form of uncontrollable flight/descent condition the taxicraft (hard to call it an aircraft) is in, and the left wing is still attached, the wing strake comes all the way to the door. The lucky pilot has a shot of using their left hand to grab the strake and guide themselves either above or below the wing. I wouldn’t bet on it, but perhaps the mere possibility of such a maneuver is comforting. As for the spinning meat grinder, I would not agree to test fly that thing without a prop break or release. Maybe shoot a rod through the reduction gear, or use explosive bolts to jettison the prop before attempting to bail out. I would also insist on quick pull hinge pins on the door. Actually, never mind, I would just insist that the plane be redesigned by someone who understands things like aerodynamics, structures and power plants.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 20 May 2020, 00:18 |
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/laW_6jxsQrQ[/youtube] Hmmm. He forecasts Vr as 97 mph, and max ROC of 1400 fpm. But the ROC graph also shows a positive climb rate down to 40 mph, and 200 fpm at 50. I'm having trouble reconciling that; if it needs 97 mph to generate enough lift to fly, how can it have excess lift to climb at 40-50 mph? Doable with a high enough thrust to weight ratio (think F-15) but this ain't that. He also says max thrust is 1,000 lb. vs. a 3,800 lb. flight test weight.
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